[uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

[Martin McEvoy]

Hello all 

The First thing every one notices when you start Firefox for the first
time Is how Simple it is to use. Operator works nicely with Firefox
because it too is simple and easy to use, especially when you use it as
an icon in the location bar, you dont even know its there until you
visit a page embedded with Microformats. Operators only problem is (as
was mentioned in an earlier post) when you visit pages with lots of
hcard's and or vevent's you dont really know who is who or what is
what... its like trawling through names in a telephone book

So keep it simple guys maybe all you need to do is create some click
actions on email links, and leave all the decisions up to the USER.

example here
http://www.flickr.com/photos/weborganics/1279305707/

Thanks

Martin

On Tue, 2007-08-28 at 09:00 -0700, Alex Faaborg wrote:
> My apologies if I'm reopening a long closed debate, I'll be sure to  
> review the wiki page.
> 
> > Side A: Publishers should be able to specify UI elements for their
> > Microformatted content in their HTML.
> >
> > Side B: The browser should be solely responsible for injecting UI into
> > the page
> 
> I should note that people inside Mozilla have argued these two sides  
> as well.  I'm personally in favor of A, or B if it is represented as  
> a modal overlay.
> 
> > It is important that the Firefox developers not only think of
> > Microformats, but eRDF, RDFa, and other semantic markup technologies
> > that are coming down the pipeline.
> 
> Yeah, it would be great if whatever solution we came up with scaled  
> across different semantic markup technologies.  The latest version of  
> Operator now supports eRDF and RDFa.
> 
> -Alex
> 
> 
> On Aug 28, 2007, at 8:09 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> 
> > Alex Faaborg wrote:
> >> Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser
> >> injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content
> >> creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted
> >> content.
> >
> > I'm probably being a bit dense, but it looks like we're entering  
> > into a
> > philosophical debate. Without taking sides, it looks like the
> > philosophical rift is this:
> >
> > Side A: Publishers should be able to specify UI elements for their
> > Microformatted content in their HTML.
> >
> > Side B: The browser should be solely responsible for injecting UI into
> > the page?
> >
> > This debate has been tracked on the wiki:
> >
> > http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info- 
> > issues#Historical:_Graphic_buttons_in_rel-patterns
> >
> > The current resolution is to leave implementation for user actions  
> > up to
> > the browser and uF plug-ins. Without going into the nasty details,  
> > which
> > are fully documented on the wiki, there is opposition to directly
> > specifying UI through uF markup. Microformats are about data, not UI.
> >
> > That being said, if there is a desire to add generic UI actions to any
> > sort of semantic data (keep in mind eRDF and RDFa), the one idea that
> > seems to be most compatible with "Microformats are about data" but  
> > able
> > to give the publishers of any semantic data some control over the  
> > UI is
> > the "uf:// protocol idea".
> >
> > Perhaps a generic set of "actions" that are defined by all semantic  
> > data
> > communities (uF, eRDF, RDFa, etc.). The assumption is that some  
> > sort of
> > ID mechanism is utilized. So for data like this:
> >
> > <div id='alex-faaborg' class='vcard'>...</div>
> >
> > Something like the following:
> >
> > <a href="action://addressbook/add/alex-faaborg">Add to address  
> > book</a>
> > <a href="action://addressbook/mail/alex-faaborg">E-mail Alex</a>
> >
> > Here are some other examples:
> >
> > action://map/find/eiffel-tower
> > action://
> >
> > The above mechanism would allow people to specify default behaviors  
> > for
> > actions. Some could specify that "action://map/" is handled by Yahoo
> > Maps, while others might choose Google Maps or Microsoft Streets  
> > and Trips.
> >
> > It is important that the Firefox developers not only think of
> > Microformats, but eRDF, RDFa, and other semantic markup technologies
> > that are coming down the pipeline.
> >
> > -- manu
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