[uf-discuss] [hCite] dates

Brian Suda brian.suda at gmail.com
Wed Jan 17 09:11:18 PST 2007

On 1/17/07, Michael McCracken <michael.mccracken at gmail.com> wrote:
> Looking at the examples on citation-examples, I find the following
> frequencies of marking up a date:
> publication date: 21
> date accessed: 3
> date copyrighted: 1 (from OCLC worldcat online)
> I just added date-accessed to the working straw schema.
> Certainly all three are useful, but can we find more examples for the last two?
> I'd be more comfortable having a 'date copyrighted' field in the uf if
> there was more than one real-world example on the wiki.

--- the other senario is to strip this down to the basics for a
version 1 and NOT include those lesser used dates, then use hCite for
awhile, see what falls down and itterate?

> If there is another date field that you think is useful, now would be
> a good time to add examples of its use and discuss it.

--- the best way to do this is not to just suggest a datetime you
want, but as Michael mentioned, fine examples!

> Also, I assume the date fields should use abbr:
> <abbr class="date-published" title="ISOdate">date text</abbr>
> however, many publications have only years, or just years and months -
> it would be good to have a recommendation about what to do in that
> case. Would <span class="date-published">2007</span> be acceptable, or
> should we insist on the full ISO date?

--- YYYY is a valid year[1]. The tricky things is when you are
converting an hCite to a variety of different non-HTML formats then a
Month Day might be required and can be added as 01-01 (but i'm open to
other interpretations)

> The problem is how we would know to ignore the month and day in the
> full date if they're just there to satisfy parsers.

--- in my start of crafting XSLT files i was converting hCite to
BibTeX. BibTeX has seperate Month, Day, Year and the parser extracts
those independatly from a single ISO date. If those are NULL then the
first of the Month,Year are valid.

There was the same discussion awhile about about how to mark-up
"Fall", "Spring", ... Then there is the weird senario in the UK where
some Magazines come-out a month before their publication date.


[1] - http://www.w3.org/TR/NOTE-datetime

brian suda

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