[uf-discuss] human readable date parsing

[James Craig]

Scott Reynen wrote:

>  Tantek Çelik wrote:
>
>> To minimize the negative impact of that violation, the datetime  
>> design
>> pattern does two things:
>>  1. Keep both copies of the data on the same element (the further  
>> apart two
>> copies of data, the greater the chance that that copies will  
>> diverge).
>>  2. Keep both copies of the data at least somewhat visible to  
>> humans so that
>> at least *some* human eyes/ears can easily inspect both copies and  
>> ensure
>> that they have not diverged.
>
> None of the markup possibilities in the wiki do #2 above (except  
> the current recommendation):
> http://microformats.org/wiki/assistive-technology-abbr- 
> results#Markup_Possibilities

Look again.
* Span with title property.

> It sounds like these aren't really possibilities at all.  I don't  
> see how we can possibly reach any sort of consensus solution here  
> when we seem to have completely opposed goals intermingled as if  
> they're the same.  Some people are clearly trying to *minimize* the  
> visibility while others are trying to *maximize* the visibility of  
> machine-readable dates.  Let's try to get everyone on the same page  
> here.

In addition to span[titile] existing Microformat plug-ins and parsers  
do the following quite nicely, making all of the listed markup  
formats very real possibilities.

>>  2. Keep both copies of the data at least somewhat visible to humans