[uf-discuss] RFC: sHTML Video Thumbnailing

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com
Mon May 28 08:57:22 PDT 2007

Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:

> On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
>> Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
>> > On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com> wrote:
>> [snip]
>> >> I don't think this is a very natural use of the <q> element. A
>> >> thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a prose fragment. Consider
>> >> that you would never put a thumbnail in quotation marks.
>> >
>> > True... but you don't have to have the <q> elements put quotes around
>> > the thumbnail.


>> Hmm. I think Maciej does have a strong point about interoperability
>> here. Removing the quotation punctuation with CSS does not help those
>> with user-designated styles or UAs that ignore such CSS: e.g. text
>> browsers and screen readers. The question to ask yourself is: if you
>> could not remove the quotation punctuation and layout, would you still
>> use <q> and <blockquote>? If a screen reader read (for example):
> A text browser can NOT see the graphical thumbnail anyways.  It will
> see the "alt" text of the thumbnail.  And putting the "alt" text in
> quotes seems OK with me.
> (It's only the putting the graphical thumbnail in quotes that seems wrong.)

Ah. Okay, I hadn't understood that's what you were saying. I think 
putting the thumbnail alternative text in quotation punctuation is 
potentially problematic unless the alternative text is actually a 
quotation from the video's dialogue.

Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis

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