[uf-discuss] RFC: sHTML Video Thumbnailing
Charles Iliya Krempeaux
supercanadian at gmail.com
Mon May 28 13:23:01 PDT 2007
On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
> Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> > On 5/28/07, Benjamin Hawkes-Lewis <bhawkeslewis at googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> Charles Iliya Krempeaux wrote:
> >> > On 5/27/07, Maciej Stachowiak <mjs at apple.com> wrote:
> >> [snip]
> >> >> I don't think this is a very natural use of the <q> element. A
> >> >> thumbnail isn't really like a quote of a prose fragment. Consider
> >> >> that you would never put a thumbnail in quotation marks.
> >> >
> >> > True... but you don't have to have the <q> elements put quotes around
> >> > the thumbnail.
> >> Hmm. I think Maciej does have a strong point about interoperability
> >> here. Removing the quotation punctuation with CSS does not help those
> >> with user-designated styles or UAs that ignore such CSS: e.g. text
> >> browsers and screen readers. The question to ask yourself is: if you
> >> could not remove the quotation punctuation and layout, would you still
> >> use <q> and <blockquote>? If a screen reader read (for example):
> > A text browser can NOT see the graphical thumbnail anyways. It will
> > see the "alt" text of the thumbnail. And putting the "alt" text in
> > quotes seems OK with me.
> > (It's only the putting the graphical thumbnail in quotes that seems wrong.)
> Ah. Okay, I hadn't understood that's what you were saying. I think
> putting the thumbnail alternative text in quotation punctuation is
> potentially problematic unless the alternative text is actually a
> quotation from the video's dialogue.
What if there is no video dialogue?
What if it is a motorcycle race?
What should I put in there then?... an onomatopoeia of the motorcycles?
alt="errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..., errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr..., rrrmmmmmm..."
Doesn't really seem useful.
The "Thumbnail of..." suggestion seems better in that case.
Charles Iliya Krempeaux, B.Sc.
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supercanadian @ gmail.com
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