[uf-discuss] Complete n00b: adr microformat

[James Howison]

On Nov 7, 2007, at 12:30 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote:

> On 11/6/07 7:20 PM, "Katrina" <Kaz at t-tec.com.au> wrote:
>
>> Gday,
>>
>> I would like to ask a few questions about the adr microformat and I
>> really hope I am in the correct place. I am so sorry if I am not.
>>
>> I am trying to learn about microformats, and so far so good.
>>
>>
>> Q1. I have an address I would like to mark up as an adr. Now the  
>> problem
>> that I think I am having with this address is that it has a  
>> country, a
>> state, a city, a suburb, a postcode, and a street address.
>>
>> As far as I know, adr only has region and locality.
>>
>> Possible markup example:
>> <div class="adr"><div class="work">Street Address</div>
>> <div class="street-address"></div>
>> <div class="locality"></div> --> suburb?
>> <div class="postal-code"></div>
>> <div class="region"></div> -- > state?
>> <div class="country-name"></div>
>> </div>
>>
>> If locality equates to suburb,
>
> It doesn't.  locality equates to city.  this has been true in common  
> vCard
> implementations for many years.

Doesn't that depend on the local meaning of City vs Suburb? ie I think  
Suburb makes more sense for Australian cities, where the suburb is a  
more specific thing than the city.  ie 'Sydney' in an address refers  
to a specific part of the whole geographical area more generally known  
as Sydney, I think it is just a few post-codes (2000, 2001, 2002?).

eg Two Australian examples (from on the wiki) show this sense:

http://www.australianit.news.com.au/contactus

(Surrey Hills, NSW, 2010)

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/contactus

(Sydney, 2000) - but that's the specific use of Sydney (as a 'suburb'  
of the greater metropolitan area, indicated by the post-codes).

Perhaps similarly one wouldn't put 'New York' when one meant Queens,  
even though Queens is in some sense part of New York City, since New  
York in addresses refers specifically to Manhattan, right? That's what  
is done on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_New_York_City_Queens

(Also why can't I see the hcard/adr markup when I view source of that  
wikipedia page, but Operator picks up the cards?)

--J