[uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

Jim O'Donnell jim at eatyourgreens.org.uk
Thu Aug 14 15:21:21 PDT 2008

Hi MIchael,

> Unfortunately the data I'm working with would have O'Connor as one  
> field and
> the sort letter would be 0. So you'd appear on ../o I fear
> But even if you were indexed as D  and appeared under ../d you'd  
> appear
> there as:
> O'Donnell, Jim
That's fine - that's exactly how it should be written. The surname is  
written O'Donnell (not Donnell) but is indexed/sorted under D.

> And not:
> Donnell, Jim O'
> Whereas beethoven has van as a separate field and an index letter  
> of B. So
> he appear under ../b as:
> Beethoven, Ludwig van
> Talking to colleagues with more library background than me the
> attachment/detachment does appear to be subject to enormous cultural
> variation particularly with van and vons

I had a quick look through some of our Dutch items at work. The way  
names are displayed varies between catalogues.

Sometimes the surname is listed without the 'Van':

Sometimes with

and sometimes the name is simply written out as it would be spoken:

I don't know if that helps, or just makes the whole situation more  

I imagine Spanish names, with the matrimonial surname, must be fun to  
deal with too :)


Jim O'Donnell
jim at eatyourgreens.org.uk

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