[uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names

Michael Smethurst Michael.Smethurst at bbc.co.uk
Thu Aug 14 04:43:48 PDT 2008

Hi Jim

Unfortunately the data I'm working with would have O'Connor as one field and
the sort letter would be 0. So you'd appear on ../o I fear

But even if you were indexed as D  and appeared under ../d you'd appear
there as:

O'Donnell, Jim

And not:

Donnell, Jim O'

Whereas beethoven has van as a separate field and an index letter of B. So
he appear under ../b as:

Beethoven, Ludwig van

Talking to colleagues with more library background than me the
attachment/detachment does appear to be subject to enormous cultural
variation particularly with van and vons

In the meantime are people happy with class="family-name-prefix" as a way of
marking up ludwig's van?

I'll go now before I add any more confusion

On 14/8/08 12:19, "jim at eatyourgreens.org.uk" <jim at eatyourgreens.org.uk>

> Hi,
> O'Connor ought to be listed under C in an alphabetical list, although that
> rule's not applied very strictly any more. Otherwise Irish phonebooks would
> be nothing but O :)
> Certainly I remember that my name was under D on the register at school.
> Cheers
> Jim O'Donnell
> Original Message:
> -----------------
> From: Michael Smethurst Michael.Smethurst at bbc.co.uk
> Date: Thu, 14 Aug 2008 10:54:36 +0100
> To: microformats-discuss at microformats.org
> Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] hcard: additional additional names
> On 13/8/08 10:50, "Brian Suda" <brian.suda at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 2008/8/13, Michael Smethurst <Michael.Smethurst at bbc.co.uk>:
> This gets a bit tricky cos some family name prefixes (Mc, Mac, Fitz, O')
> stay attached to the family name when listing alphabetically. So you see:
> Macfarren, George
> O'Connor, Mark
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