[uf-discuss] HTML5, Microformats and RDFa

[André Luís]

Manu,
the css based approach is somethin that has come up in discussions
about semantics with fellow workers. I believe it does not trash all
of the hard work the communities have don so far. All it does, from
what i gathered, is move the semantics from html and places it in a
separate file/place. The vocabulary used could be one specified by
ufs. For instance: #tags a { rel: "tag"; }
it all comes down to: do we want to separate semantics from our markup?

thanks for the heads up on this matter.
Cheers,
André Luís

On 8/28/08, Manu Sporny <msporny at digitalbazaar.com> wrote:
> Scott Reynen wrote:
>> I think comparing RDFa to microformats actually hurts your argument by
>> suggesting they solve the same problem and reinforcing the notion that
>> the wider problem RDFa seeks to solve is unimportant.  Rather, I would
>> interpret the mentions of microformats as an indication that people are
>> missing the wider problem RDFa would solve, and focus on making that
>> clearer, by talking about what RDFa does that microformats don't even
>> attempt to do.
>
> Scott, Ben - thanks for the feedback, both of you make some very good
> points and I've adjusted my argumentation a bit to follow advice
> expressed by both of you. Things are being clarified in some ways on the
> HTML5 list and muddied in others.
>
> The one thing that is clear is that most of those on the list are not as
> up-to-speed with web semantics as either this community or the RDFa
> community would expect. Certainly, I was a bit blind-sided by some of
> the false assertions those on the list were making about semantics in
> general.
>
> The very long thread continues,
>
> RDFa Problem Statement and Features
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-August/015957.html
>
> Intro to RDFa
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-August/015974.html
>
> RDFa markup consistency
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-August/015992.html
>
> CSS-based approach to semantic data on the Web (Microformats and RDFa)
> http://lists.whatwg.org/pipermail/whatwg-whatwg.org/2008-August/015996.html
>
> Of particular note is the last thread - the CSS-based approach to
> semantic data markup. It's a proposal that, while interesting, ignores
> the hard work that this community and the RDFa community has done over
> the past several years. I could be mis-reading the various threads, so
> some feedback from this list would be appreciated.
>
> -- manu
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