[uf-discuss] haudio contributor

Michael Smethurst Michael.Smethurst at bbc.co.uk
Thu Feb 7 01:55:30 PST 2008

On 7/2/08 00:13, "Guillaume Lebleu" <guillaume at lebleu.org> wrote:

> I don't disagree that groups/bands should be considered organisations.

This takes me back several months (June 2007) to a thread about whether both
music:groups and music:artists_singular should be marked up as


At the time Scott Reynen suggested:
If it's just a generic contact that you know nothing about, I'd say just use
fn, as adding org is potentially incorrect information. But if you know it's
a music act, I think it makes sense to consider even an individual
performer's name to be an organization name in that context. I'd say there's
a difference, for example, between Norah Jones the person, who would be
<span class="fn">Norah Jones</span>, and Norah Jones the musical act, which
would be <span class="fn org">Norah Jones</span>.

> That said, I don't think the reason offered here is a strong one. The
> issue described is directly related to FN's (over?)reuse beyond its
> original vCard scope of person names, to cover any name.

Agreed. The problem also arises with artists like Eminem, Madonna, Prince.
How is fn optimisation supposed to work here?
> [Not only has this led to the fn/title debate, but it seems some
> implementors are confused between following the vCard semantics (FN only
> for person names) or the hCard ones (FN for any name). See.
> http://cinematreasures.org/theater/365/, which uses an empty FN,
> resulting in their vCard not being detected by Operator, only the address]
> Guillaume
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