[uf-discuss] hreview-aggregate -- votes vs reviews

[Kavi Goel]

Hi folks,

I've updated the hreview-aggregate draft spec to version 0.2 and
included the new property "votes." You can see the draft here:
http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview-aggregate

Best,
Kavi

On Mon, Nov 30, 2009 at 2:48 PM, Kavi Goel <kavi at google.com> wrote:
>
> Just wanted to raise this topic one more time. Please let me know if
> you have any feedback on the proposal to extend hreview-aggregate to
> allow sites to differentiate between the number of individual reviews
> there are vs the number of votes towards an aggregate rating (where a
> vote may or may not have an associated individual review).
>
> Proposal:
> http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-brainstorming#Reviews_vs_ratings
>
> Motivating examples:
> http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-examples#Ratings_without_reviews_examples
>
> I'm planning on updating the hreview-aggregate draft within the next few days.
>
> Kavi
>
> On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:26 PM, Kavi Goel <kavi at google.com> wrote:
> >
> > Tantek, thanks for reviewing the hreview-aggregate draft.
> >
> > Per your suggestion, I've added several examples of sites that have
> > separate counts for the number of ratings/votes and the number of
> > reviews. The examples are here:
> > http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-examples#Ratings_without_reviews_examples
> >
> > And to re-iterate the problem and proposal -- it's valuable to be able
> > to differentiate between the number of reviews on a page vs the number
> > of votes that contribute towards an average rating. For example, a
> > page with 4 reviews is much more interesting than a page with 4 votes
> > and 0 reviews. We'd like to extend the hreview-aggregate schema to
> > include some method of differentiating these two different counts. The
> > proposal is to add a new property called "votes"; more details are
> > here:
> > http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-brainstorming#Reviews_vs_ratings
> >
> > As before I'm happy to hear feedback on the proposal or any alternatives.
> >
> > Kavi
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:10 AM, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:53 PM, Kavi Goel <kavi at google.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > I have replaced the stub page for hReview-aggregate with a draft spec
> > > > describing the microformat that was decided on early this year.
> > > ...
> > > > http://microformats.org/wiki/hreview-aggregate
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Kavi, I've reviewed the hreview-aggregate page and it is an
> > > excellent first draft.
> > >
> > > Thanks very much for writing this up.
> > >
> > >
> > > > I have also updated the brainstorming page with a proposal to address
> > > > one of the issues raised -- that users can leave a rating without
> > > > writing a review. The current hreview-aggregate draft has a single
> > > > property called "count" that is used to specify the number of reviews
> > > > for a particular product or service. However, many sites have some
> > > > number of votes (where users specify a numerical rating or a thumbs
> > > > up/thumbs down vote) contributing to an average rating and a smaller
> > > > number of full user reviews.
> > > >
> > > > The brainstorming page is here:
> > > > http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-brainstorming
> > >
> > > Do you have documentation of real-world examples of sites that
> > > separately publish number of votes/ratings and reviews?
> > >
> > > We should collect URLs to those examples in the
> > > aggregate-review-examples page to make sure we are
> > > modeling/brainstorming/proposing something that is designed
> > > specifically for what is actually published today.
> > >
> > > http://microformats.org/wiki/aggregate-review-examples
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Tantek
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