[uf-discuss] re: HTML5 support
scott at randomchaos.com
Sun Jul 18 09:10:37 PDT 2010
On Jul 18, 2010, at 6:38 AM, Oli Studholme wrote:
>> I'd suggest removing the entire vocabulary-specific section altogether. As mentioned in the same page, microdata is aiming to solve a different problem than microformats, so it's misleading to suggest specific vocabularies are actually alternatives to specific microformats by talking about them vis-a-vis microformats.
> I’m sorry, but what text are you referring to?
This is what I'm referring to as the "vocabulary-specific section":
This is what I'm referring to as "mentioned in the same page, microdata is aiming to solve a different problem":
> Out of curiosity what do you perceive are the different problems that
> microformats and microdata are trying to solve?
Microformats aim to "solve a specific problem." Microdata aims to be compatible with RDF, which demands more generic semantics. Because of this, I doubt you'll ever see something like n optimization in microdata. You've suggested that's a good thing because n optimization doesn't make sense in all cases, but that's the crux of it: microformats aren't trying to make sense in all cases, while microdata is. n optimization isn't a good thing or a bad thing; it's simply a reflection of different goals.
> I personally see microformats as a grass-roots movement that uses the
> tools available to extend HTML with extra semantics. Currently this is
> accomplished using @class, @rel etc. I see microdata as a new tool in
> HTML5 that would also be suitable for using with microformats, so I’m
> wondering what’s up with all the negativity directed toward microdata
> in these replies.
Maybe you could clarify what specifically you see as negativity toward microdata? I don't see microdata and microformats having different goals as a bad thing for either. Different goals are good.
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