[uf-new] Microformat for Music Downloads

Martin McEvoy martin at weborganics.co.uk
Wed Apr 4 12:39:03 PDT 2007

On Wed, 2007-04-04 at 11:58 -0500, Scott Reynen wrote:
> On Apr 4, 2007, at 10:26 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> > Martin,
> >
> > If the only fields that we have to contend with are artist and  
> > object, I
> > would agree with you. However, if you take a look at the types of  
> > fields
> > that we are dealing with for music:
> >
> > http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info- 
> > examples#Analysis_of_Music_Sites
> I think Martin was talking about this problem:
> http://microformats.org/wiki/music-examples#The_Problem

Yes I was referring more to this problem, a was thinking more along the
lines of playing the content in a music player such as iTunes or Amarok
directly from a blog or Artist's website and being able to read a review
about the track you are listening to either as a feed or by viewing the
web page its self. 

> Which is much simpler than the media info problem:
> http://microformats.org/wiki/media-info-brainstorming#The_Problem

>From what I understand so far is this about the actual file itself?
maybe the media-info should relate more to the metadata attached to the
file itself and should follow the lines if already widely used formats
such as idv3.

> > It starts to become evident that semantically describing music is much
> > different that describing feeds (hAtom) and reviews (hReview).  
> > hAtom is
> > for feeds, which music items are usually not.
> hAtom is not only for feeds; it's for "practically any other place  
> Atom may be used," and feeds are only the most prominent example of  
> that.  hAtom contains a title, description, and item for download,  
> which is very close to what's needed for music downloads.
> > Analysis of over 85 music sites have shown that those are the norm
> Many of the sites you surveyed don't have audio downloads available,  
> so while they may be relevant to the media-info work, they're outside  
> the scope of music downloads.
> > - and
> > I can't see them fitting neatly into hAtom or hReview. Can anybody  
> > think
> > of any combination of existing Microformat mappings that would work  
> > for
> > the fields listed above?
> I think media-info will likely need a new format, as it's relatively  
> broad in scope.  But music downloads is a simpler problem, and I  
> think Martin did a great job of demonstrating that we can solve most  
> of it with existing microformats.
> --
> Scott Reynen
> MakeDataMakeSense.com
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