[uf-new] hAlbum concerns

Andy Mabbett andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Sat Aug 25 03:52:18 PDT 2007


In message <1188032014.6966.17.camel at localhost.localdomain>, Martin
McEvoy <martin at weborganics.co.uk> writes

In message <1188032014.6966.17.camel at localhost.localdomain>, Martin
McEvoy <martin at weborganics.co.uk> writes

>On Sat, 2007-08-25 at 01:06 -0700, Justin Maxwell wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Regarding hAlbum (http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-album-proposal),
>> I believe it would be beneficial to include fields referencing
>> catalog number ("identifier") and publisher ("publisher"), both
>> optional.  Is there any compelling objection to this?
>
>You can specify roles in the contributor vcard [1] e.g
><span class="contributor vcard">
><span class="role">Publisher</span>...etc
>
>roles are: artist, publisher, guitarist, vocalist, violinist, lead
>singer, backup singer, bassist, drummer, manager, roadie... etc

Care should be taken not to confuse publisher (e.g. Northern Songs,
Boozey and Hawkes) and the label (EMI, Deutsche Gramaphon). Publishers
deal with the rights in compositions; labels issue recordings. An album
may have more than one publisher; a single recording may appear on more
than one label.

>As for specifying an Identifier well unfortunately the from the
>examples we used [2] there wasnt much evidence of any kind of
>Identifier other than the url's themselves.

It seems to me that your examples concentrate on sites publishing
downloadable or streaming audio files, and that you (or "we",
collectively) haven't examined sites publishing descriptions of
recordings on CD, vinyl or whatever (which would seem to be covered by
both the "problem" statement and the "purpose" on the brainstorming
page, and certainly should be within the scope of this microformat).

Once you do, you'll find plenty of examples of catalogue numbers being
published. For example:

        <http://www.jazzdisco.org/miles/dis/c/>

        <http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/PFArchives/DUKLP.htm>

        <http://www.naxos.com/catalogue/item.asp?item_code=8.553406>


We should also be careful to distinguish /types/ of identifier
(catalogue number, UID, ISBN, Amazon-ASIN, etc.)

-- 
Andy Mabbett


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