Fwd: [uf-new] hMovie?
kevinmarks at mac.com
Sat Jul 21 15:52:39 PDT 2007
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Mary Hodder <mary at dabble.com>
> Date: July 19, 2007 3:28:16 PM PDT
> To: Kevin Marks <kevinmarks at mac.com>
> Subject: Fwd: [uf-new] hMovie?
> can you pls post this to the new microformats list.. it's not
> letting my email through.
> Mary Hodder
> Founder: Dabble
> Blogs: Dabble.com/blog
> Begin forwarded message:
>> From: Mary Hodder <mary at dabble.com>
>> Date: July 19, 2007 9:08:34 AM PDT
>> To: "For discussion of new microformats." <microformats-
>> new at microformats.org>
>> Subject: Re: [uf-new] hMovie?
>> A couple of us have collected video examples here:
>> Many are from two years ago, so it may need some refreshing, but
>> are already a variety of examples of metadata as published.
>> Kevin Marks and I did a session at Web 20 Expo in the open space
>> part of the conference on this issue.
>> I'd like to see a media microformat for video asap but it's been
>> more about
>> being very busy on other things than anything else that's kept us
>> pushing forward on this.
>> There are two things that I've noticed that may be in conflict:
>> 1. the example in the email yesterday gave a list of IMDB like
>> types of
>> metadata around video from that perspective, that few people other
>> IMDB publish online. Most people to not put up a video they've made,
>> either on their own blogs, or embedded from a hoster, and list all
>> categories of metadata around the video.
>> 2. most people (and hosters) tend to publish video and give a
>> limited set of data:
>> other formats via url
>> of the 100 million videos online now, that is maybe 95% if not more.
>> Microformats are supposed to reflect what is actually in practice
>> not what you want people to do that they don't do now.
>> I would suggest that we need to resolve this conflict between
>> style metadata associated with video, and the rest of the massive
>> amount of
>> publishing going on now online.. in order to figure out what to do
>> Lastly, there is the issue of quoting.. there are many services
>> now that allow:
>> - url/timecode based subtitlling, tagging and thought bubbles
>> - remixing
>> - playlisting (much like an edit decision list)
>> - grouping (association of quotes)
>> - playing just a quote of a longer piece of video
>> And there is the issue of multivideo grouping:
>> - groups of videos in their full state
>> - playlisting of videos
>> These are all in common practice on the web (I'll add some urls to
>> of these to the page I referenced above) and need to be taken into
>> in the microformat as well, because people blog or publish these
>> all the time.
>> On Jul 19, 2007, at 6:13 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
>>> Patrick Aljord wrote:
>>>> I'm doing a website to publish a list of movies with the same
>>>> kind of
>>>> data imdb has:
>>>> Director, Writers, Release date (per country), genre, tagline, plot
>>>> outline, workers (those are people that work for the movie like
>>>> actors, costumes, executive producer, sound engineer etc),
>>>> sound-mix , country, duration, aspect-ratio...
>>>> I'm wondering if there is way to set all that as a microformat.
>>>> Do you think it's doable or is that too much information for a
>>> It is do-able and is on the slate of things to get done. We just
>>> finished up the hAudio draft about a month ago. We are going to be
>>> moving forward with hAlbum and hVideo afterwards.
>>> It will take around 3 months to collect enough examples, analyze
>>> examples and publish a draft for hVideo. hVideo is part of a bigger
>>> initiative called media-info, whose goal is to be able to mark up
>>> information much like what you listed for video.
>>> In short - yes, the community is definitely interested in getting a
>>> video Microformat completed. It will take around 3 months to
>>> At the moment, nobody is working on it due to the focus on
>>> Would you be willing to collect sample URLs for video? If so,
>>> that would
>>> move that project forward.
>>> -- manu
>>> microformats-new mailing list
>>> microformats-new at microformats.org
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