[uf-new] Microformat for expressing uncertainty?

Charlie microformats at charlie.okeefe.name
Tue Jul 31 12:17:55 PDT 2007

On 7/31/07, Scott Reynen <scott at makedatamakesense.com> wrote:
> On Jul 31, 2007, at 11:26 AM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> >> So in other words, we're talking about uncertainty in more than one
> >> dimension, as expressed by a covariance matrix.
> >
> > Hi Charlie - to work on this, you would have to demonstrate a
> > number of
> > places on the web that already publish information like this. How many
> > websites out there publish numbers with associated covariance
> > matrices?
> >
> > Microformats don't try and invent new ways of publishing
> > information. If
> > you can't find at least 10-20 examples of this happening on the
> > web, you
> > are going to have a very hard time asking the community to spend
> > time to
> > create the Microformat that you're proposing.
> I agree that demonstrating broad community value is necessary if you
> want broad community participation.  That's just how people seem to
> work, and microformats formalize this to reduce wasted time.  But
> while it's naturally the focus of this community, broad community
> value isn't the only kind of value.  Disinterest here shouldn't be
> taken as a sign that something is worthless, only that this community
> is probably not the best place to pursue it.  There is plenty of
> value in standardizing HTML for individual people or organizations.
> And where this overlaps with the broader community efforts of
> microformats, i.e. where we can help, we're generally eager to do so.
> The subject quest here is "Microformat for expressing uncertainty?"
> It seems the answer to that is probably no.  But rather than stopping
> there, I'd encourage you to ask a different question: "Plain old
> semantic HTML for expressing uncertainty?" I believe the answer to
> that is likely yes.
> --
> Scott Reynen
> MakeDataMakeSense.com

ahhh... ok, I guess I am really just talking about deciding on a way to
apply semantic HTML to a problem, and not asking for a community effort to
formalize it. So if "Microformat" implies a formal community effort then no,
I'm not asking for a Microformat.

It would be nice to lay down a schema somehow to describe it though, so I'm
not just using tags. It seems like XMDP is the way to do this. Is that the
preferred route for rolling your own?
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