[uf-new] title vs. summary (was: Third attempt at hAudio)
scott at makedatamakesense.com
Fri Jun 8 17:25:07 PDT 2007
On Jun 8, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Martin McEvoy wrote:
> I think at the time hCard was meant to be identical to the vCard
> Standard in every way and mach the scheme defined in
> http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2426.txt there was no guess work or
> or anything just well established standards
> for us to use title from vCard would mean that our meaning in hAudio
> would have to match the title attribute in the vCard standard.
> the only other microformat that does use Title is of course hAtom
> is also built around rfc standards http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287
hAtom actually uses "entry-title." While that has a similar meaning
to "title" in English, those two terms have completely distinct
meanings in microformat definitions, because microformats definitions
are by necessity more specific than English definitions.
> this is why we cant change hAtom to suit our needs because it is based
> on already well established standards.
Right, but if we can re-use existing class names without changing the
meaning, we should do so, as it makes things easier for publishers.
> Summary as Brian put it is the easiest fruit to pick from the tree as
> most or the established microformats hReview, hResume, and hCalendar
> already use summary to mean exactly what we want it to mean.
There seems to be some disagreement over whether "summary" is
actually what we want it to mean. I point this out not because I
personally disagree, but because addressing this disagreement is
required before moving forward, which I think we'd all like to do.
> The discussion around re-defining the vcard title to mean what we want
> it to mean may take a very long time to accomplish, and it would have
> to be via the microformat process.
Right. I think trying to change hCard, one of the oldest
microformats, before moving forward with hAudio is a good way to
grind the hAudio discussion to a halt for a long time, so I think we
should do whatever we can to avoid that.
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