[uf-new] title vs. summary (was: Third attempt at hAudio)
martin at weborganics.co.uk
Fri Jun 8 18:20:53 PDT 2007
On Fri, 2007-06-08 at 18:25 -0600, Scott Reynen wrote:
> On Jun 8, 2007, at 2:45 PM, Martin McEvoy wrote:
> > I think at the time hCard was meant to be identical to the vCard
> > Standard in every way and mach the scheme defined in
> > http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc2426.txt there was no guess work or
> > defining
> > or anything just well established standards
> > for us to use title from vCard would mean that our meaning in hAudio
> > would have to match the title attribute in the vCard standard.
> > the only other microformat that does use Title is of course hAtom
> > which
> > is also built around rfc standards http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc4287
> > Atom
> hAtom actually uses "entry-title." While that has a similar meaning
> to "title" in English, those two terms have completely distinct
> meanings in microformat definitions, because microformats definitions
> are by necessity more specific than English definitions.
which is why entry-title would not be suitable...
> > this is why we cant change hAtom to suit our needs because it is based
> > on already well established standards.
> Right, but if we can re-use existing class names without changing the
> meaning, we should do so, as it makes things easier for publishers.
I agree strongly with this principle..
> > Summary as Brian put it is the easiest fruit to pick from the tree as
> > most or the established microformats hReview, hResume, and hCalendar
> > already use summary to mean exactly what we want it to mean.
> There seems to be some disagreement over whether "summary" is
> actually what we want it to mean. I point this out not because I
> personally disagree, but because addressing this disagreement is
> required before moving forward, which I think we'd all like to do.
> > The discussion around re-defining the vcard title to mean what we want
> > it to mean may take a very long time to accomplish, and it would have
> > to be via the microformat process.
> Right. I think trying to change hCard, one of the oldest
> microformats, before moving forward with hAudio is a good way to
> grind the hAudio discussion to a halt for a long time, so I think we
> should do whatever we can to avoid that.
not that i think it is possible to change the meaning of title in hCard
and yes this is exactly what I am suggesting we avoid
so what do we do? is the question,
> Scott Reynen
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