[uf-new] First draft of hAudio proposal

[Martin McEvoy]

On Wed, 2007-05-02 at 13:18 -0400, Manu Sporny wrote:
> Martin McEvoy wrote:
> > Manu please help me out here because I am having difficulty
> > understanding your logic?
> > 
> > As you know I do not disagree with your proposal for collections but... 
> > 
> > To me the ".", period, or hidden class, in xml/xhtml is a known empty
> > element i.e they create a space along with "a-b" "a_b" and "a~b"
> > 
> > If I wanted to connect two items I would use "a|b" "a/b" "a:b" or "a,b"
> > you can also use "a?b" "a&b" as connectors 
> > 
> > so why have you chose "." a period to describe your relationships in a
> > collection?
> 
> The decision to use '.' was almost completely arbitrary. It is commonly
> used to delineate object hierarchy in programming languages. Note that
> delineating object hierarchy is subtly different from delineating class
> name spaces. The grouping proposal is about "naming local object
> hierarchy" not "global class name spaces".

so... 

<ol>
<li><a href="download/page_1">download page 1</a></li>
<li><a href="download/page_2">download page 2</a></li>
</ol>

also names local object hierarchy using the tried and tested methods
already widely in use 

> 
> The '/', '?', and '&' separators were not used because they already have
> a loose semantic meaning on the web as separators.

so does "." it means hidden or empty or stop

>  Perhaps that is more
> of an argument for using those separators than against.
> 
> I'm not opposed to using a different separator. Although, I don't think
> the separator is what most are concerned about on the list. Most of the
> concern is coming from the following two camps:
> 
> * Are sparse groups really a problem?! [1]
> * Names spaces are pure evil! Hang anybody that proposes anything
>   that looks like a name space! :) [2]
> 
> -- manu
> 
> PS: Scott - I'll get around to addressing your point about showing
> examples of sparse grouping. Unfortunately, I'll be trapped in
> conference calls for the rest of the day.
> 
> [1] http://microformats.org/wiki/grouping-examples
> [2] http://microformats.org/wiki/namespaces-considered-harmful
> 
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