[uf-new] [hAudio] fn _or_ album

[Martin McEvoy]

Hello Scott

On Sun, 2007-11-04 at 17:24 -0700, Scott Reynen wrote:
> No, it indicates the type of audio, not the type of name.  There is
> no  
> joint "fn album" property; that's two completely separate properties  
> that happen to be classifying the same element.  In HTML, one class  
> name has no effect on the meaning of another.  FN in HAUDIO *always*  
> means "name of audio." 

Manu and Brian had quite a debate on fn audio (nine days) which started
off in the Item/track debate

http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-October/001151.html

That ended up as the Proposal being

...

HAUDIO parts are denoted by ITEM:
   <span class="item"><span class="fn">Track Name</span></span>

EXAMPLES:

Album with two tracks, simple example:
<span class="haudio">
   <span class="fn album">Best Before 1984</span>
   <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
   <div class="item">
      <span class="fn">Hokkaido Dream</span>
   </div>
   <div class="item">
      <span class="fn">Tokyo Groove</span>
   </div>
</span>

Album with two tracks, more detailed:
<span class="haudio">
   <span class="fn album">Best Before 1984</span>
   <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
   <span class="item">
      <span class="fn">Hokkaido Dream</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT3M24S">3:24</abbr>
   </span>
   <span class="item">
      <span class="fn">Tokyo Groove</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT4M46S">4:46</abbr>
   </span>
</span>

...

<span class="fn album">Best Before 1984</span> is not both a track and Album, Its just an album
The context in which "fn album" is used in the above example is pretty
much a re-use from "fn org" where "fn album" is used to imply that fn
type is an album.

This is my Axe that I am grinding if:

   <span class="fn album">Best Before 1984</span> Is an album
and

   <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span> is also an Album

where are the advantages of using <span class="fn album">Best Before
1984</span> over just <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span> ?

It seems correct and understandable to simply markup hAudio like this:

A track unknown album, detailed:
<span class="haudio">
 <span class="item">
      <span class="fn">Hokkaido Dream</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT3M24S">3:24</abbr>
   </span>
</span>


a single track known Album, detailed:
<span class="haudio">
 <span class="item">
   <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
      <span class="fn">Hokkaido Dream</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT3M24S">3:24</abbr>
   </span>
</span>



Album with two tracks, detailed:
<span class="haudio">
   <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
   <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
   <span class="item">
      <span class="fn">Hokkaido Dream</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT3M24S">3:24</abbr>
   </span>
   <span class="item">
      <span class="fn">Tokyo Groove</span>
      <abbr class="duration" title="PT4M46S">4:46</abbr>
   </span>
</span>

No misunderstandings, and easy to understand. I don't understand what
benefits a publisher has using "fn album" over simply just "album"
Microformats are supposed to use "simple conventions" and "use brief,
descriptive class names", sorry about the quotes I am just emphasising
my Issue.


Thanks

Martin