[uf-new] hAudio: audio-title/album-title vs. recording/album

Martin McEvoy martin at weborganics.co.uk
Sat Oct 13 05:40:43 PDT 2007


Hello Scott, Manu, Julian...

On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 00:18 -0600, Scott Reynen wrote:
> On Oct 12, 2007, at 9:39 PM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> 
> > Martin, can you post some markup for the same 5 examples above using
> > your proposal?
> 
> Yeah, I'd like that too, Martin.  It seems to me you're making  
> several proposals at once, and I'm not able to conceptually separate  
> them enough to understand and respond.  Examples of the various types  
> Julian posted earlier (single track with album, single track without  
> album, single album without tracks, single album with simple tracks,  
> and single album with detailed tracks) would help clarify for me  
> exactly how you see it all fitting together.

Single Track album known
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="item track">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Single track, album unknown:

<span class="haudio">
     <span class="item track">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Album:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Album with a couple of tracks, simple example:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
     <span class="item track">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="item track">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="item track">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
</span>

Album with a couple of tracks, more detailed:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
     <span class="item"><span class="track">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
     <span class="item"><span class="track">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
     <span class="item"><span class="track">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
</span>

...

As I said in one of my previous messages I am a supporter of using *FN*
as it suits the original design intention that when creating the hAudio
uF we should re-use existing microformats where possible If none can not
be found then we propose another,

...

Single Track album known
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="item fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Single track, album unknown:

<span class="haudio">
     <span class="item fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Album:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
</span>

Album with a couple of tracks, simple example:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
     <span class="item fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="item fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
     <span class="item fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
</span>

Album with a couple of tracks, more detailed:
<span class="haudio">
     <span class="album">Best Before 1984</span>
     <span class="contributor">Crass</span>
     <span class="item"><span class="fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
     <span class="item"><span class="fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
     <span class="item"><span class="fn">Nagasaki Nightmare</ 
span> – <abbr class="duration" title="P268T">4:46</abbr></span>
</span>

Pros:
 NO more New Microformats other than *album* and those already
discovered, and we get to drop audio-title as its meaning is a grey area
to begin with.

Cons:
 Is it easy to understand that an Item within hAudio is a track? (I
think it is)
Should we create yet another microformat "track"? when re-using "item"
seems to suit our purpose?


Comments?

Thanks

Martin

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