[uf-new] item property (was: hAudio: audio-title/album-title vs. recording/album)

[David Janes]

On 10/13/07, Tantek Çelik <tantek at cs.stanford.edu> wrote:
> On 10/13/07 1:11 PM, "Martin McEvoy" <martin at weborganics.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 2007-10-13 at 20:48 +0100, Andy Mabbett wrote:
> >>
> >> It's my understanding that "item" in microformats was intended purely
> >> as
> >> a delimiter, with the same - empty - semantic value as SPAN and DIV in
> >> HTML.
> >
> > the exact same semantics are mirrored In my suggestion in hAudio, do you
> > not think that Item can be a powerful tool in microformats if we use it
> > the same way as a div or a span in html?
>
> Precisely.
>
>
> > I think if we use track ...
> >
> >    <span class="track">
> >             <span class="fn>Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
> >      </span>
> >
> > in the context of hAudio does it have any more meaning than
> >
> >    <span class="item">
> >             <span class="fn>Nagasaki Nightmare</span>
> >      </span>
> >
> > track and item are both being used as container for which the contents
> > describe what it is?
>
> Correct, they appear to be isomorphic.
>
>
> > Anyway there is only Me at the moment supporting using *item* instead of
> > a new microformat *track*
>
> I support re-use of "item" as well, rather than inventing a new term that
> has apparently the same semantics, which would violate one of our naming
> principles: re-use the same name to mean the same thing (instead of using
> two names to mean the same thing).
>
> http://microformats.org/wiki/naming-principles#Reuse

Note that a did a moderate amount of work on this last year [1],
looking over the options as isolating item as it's own microformat, as
a design pattern, or as a microformat explicitly designed to be used
as a composite. Also supported by examples [2] and formats [3]

Regards, etc...

[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/item
[2] http://microformats.org/wiki/item-examples
[3] http://microformats.org/wiki/item-formats

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