[uf-new] item property (was: hAudio: audio-title/album-title vs.
andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Sun Oct 14 14:44:24 PDT 2007
In message <2D84A83F-CA01-46AA-93BA-3FB10AF12DFF at code404.com>, Justin
Maxwell <soc at code404.com> writes
>On Oct 14, 2007, at 12:10 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> What do you mean by "there is no 'track' in data"?
>> I thought we created microformats by looking at evidence, not
>> considering personal opinions and supposition about what may be
>> understood at dome unknown point in the future.
>and i thought i was helping define a microformat, not practicing my
>skill in public debate. so, we're even. :)
Given that this is a debate, carried out in public, I can't see why you
were under the misapprehension that you're not doing both.
>"there is no 'track' in data." I wrote that thinking it was self-
>explanatory and obvious, so, sorry if it seemed too abstract. a
>"track" refers to a physically demonstrable "track" in a recording
>medium, whether that track is a set of continuous grooves divided by
>physical markers, or a series of sectors on a CD/DVD divided by start
>and end markers. In short, "track" is a term reserved for physical,
And now used to refer to a song or other piece of music. We're concerned
with current usage, not etymology.
>> If people refer to a songs or other recording as a "track" - as the
>> evidence  shows they do - then we should use that.
>>  - <http://tinyurl.com/yvekd2>
>good point! however, people also refer to items as "songs,"
Some tracks are songs, others are not. All songs, though, are tracks.
> but a google search on "'spoken word' songs" (and similar variations
>of non- musical recorded genres, such as "audiobook +songs") gives
>evidence that popular usage is incorrect as well.
I don't see what it is, that leads you to that conclusion.
> So it's easy to find evidence of people using both "track" and
>"song," but neither are correct. If we have the opportunity to define
>a standard, why not go with one -- "item" -- that is universally
Because it's semantically barren.
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