[uf-new] hAudio Issue D4: 2008-01-10 rel-enclosure does not allow for links to streaming files

Martin McEvoy martin at weborganics.co.uk
Mon Aug 18 10:35:32 PDT 2008

Manu Sporny wrote:
> Martin McEvoy wrote:
>> Issue D4: 2008-01-10 [1]
>> Raised by Andy Mabbett <http://microformats.org/wiki/User:AndyMabbett>
>> in 
>> (/http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-discuss/2008-January/011344.html/)
>> I do however agree that rel-enclosure IS unsuitable for some types of
>> files such as audio streamed directly from a server.
> I disagree, Martin. rel-enclosure is suitable for any type of file,
> "static" or "streaming", but my interpretation of rel-enclosure could be
> wrong.
I Agree  also....
> I believe that Andy was taking issue at the definition of rel-enclosure:
> "By adding rel="enclosure" to a hyperlink, a page indicates that the
> destination of that hyperlink is intended to be downloaded and cached."
> Take note of the "intended to be downloaded and cached" part of the
> specification. The term "cached" is problematic because some would
> understand that in the sense that it is "stored forever", others would
> understand it as "stored for an undetermined period of time, as a whole
> or as a part of a whole."
> I lean towards the second definition, which results in rel-enclosure
> being suitable for any digital file format (static file or dynamic
> stream). Afterall, you must /download/ the link in order to do anything
> with the data and that data must be /cached/ somewhere on your computer.

Something I tried to assert in a previous email 

> So, we either need to agree that this is a non-issue and rel-enclosure
> is suitable for static and streaming files, or we need to create a new
> concept, like rel="download".
> My preference is to resolve that rel-enclosure is applicable to both
> static and streaming files and note the decision on the rel-enclosure
> wiki page.

>> I would like to Recommend that this issue should be closed, pending
>> further examples.
> I don't believe the problem with this issue to be one of more examples,
> but one of interpretation of the rel-enclosure specification.

> I propose we:
> Resolve to accept that rel-enclosure can be applied to both static and
> streaming files and note the decision on the rel-enclosure wiki page.

Martin McEvoy
> -- manu
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