[uf-new] Re: [uf-discuss] hAudio issue: position

Andy Mabbett andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Fri Jan 11 12:27:29 PST 2008


In message <1200069431.3565.15.camel at localhost.localdomain>, Martin 
McEvoy <martin at weborganics.co.uk> writes

>I have cross posted this email to microformats new as I believe hAudio
>is still in development and any Issues anyone may have with haudio
>should really be posted there.

Fair enough.

>On Thu, 2008-01-10 at 23:35 +0000, Andy Mabbett wrote:
>> The recommended use of "position" in hAudio:
>>
>>    <http://microformats.org/wiki/haudio#Complete_Album_Example>
>>
>> is contrary to the good practice, semantic use of ordered lists ("OL").

>Position was a late addition because most of the examples we were
>studying used tables in the design of their web pages, we also found
>that XOXO or OL doesn't work in tables
>http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-June/000482.html

Is position needed to sequence items, or to signify their position of 
the track on the original album.

If the former, then surely order in the source code (in a list, table or 
whatever) should suffice.

If the latter then what's the use case, and which examples support it? 
Where are the examples of tracks listed out of sequence, in the source 
code, but with a sequence indicated in content??

>so now you can do both, use an ordered list without marking up
>"position" and also use hAudio in tables with the ability to markup
>position.

I think that providing an alternative to OL in that manner, not to 
mention encouraging people to use it by having it as an example in the 
spec, is no better then "p class="heading">

-- 
Andy Mabbett


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