[uf-new] Re: Comment Questions

Tantek Celik tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Thu Nov 13 14:13:28 PST 2008

Martin, David Janes, Sarven thanks very much for your good analysis and back/forth discussion of possible approaches to solving the comment(s) problem(s).

One comment on comment vs comments.

In general it works better to develop microformats (and properties) to represent a single instance of something (rather than multiple instances), and then use the collection/list/pluralization/aggregation features of the context (whether implicit, like multiple contained/descendant elements, or explicit like in an OL/UL as with XOXO) to represent more than one instance.

In some cases that collection itself will/canbe considered an instance of something that has its own properties. Hence hfeed and vcalendar in addition to hentry and vevent.  But even in those cases it is better to focus on the instance first and then the collection later.


-----Original Message-----
From: Martin McEvoy <martin at weborganics.co.uk>

Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 20:58:19 
To: For discussion of new microformats.<microformats-new at microformats.org>
Subject: Re: [uf-new] Re: Comment Questions

David Janes wrote:
> Hi Martin,
Hello David..
> How does it detach it? You end up with a page that's structured like this:
> <hfeed>
>  <hentry>
>   <entry-title>My Blog post</entry-title>
>   <entry-content>Bla bla bla, I have a blog</entry-content>
>   <hfeed comments>
>     <hentry>
>      <entry-content>You are so smart and handsome</entry-content>
>     </hentry>
>   </hfeed>
>  </hentry
> </hfeed>
> I don't think there's too many blog pages that don't use this implicit
> structure. 
Yes having a quick look at the examples I have I would say that you are 

What the "comment"(singular) problem so to speak is a simpler problem 
than "comments"(plural), and really basic it deals with the singular 
issue of a comment, (solve the simpler problems first) which only 
consists really of a few singular properties such as the author, the 
date, the comment the author made and where it is
> My apologies if I'm missing something....

No need, many people have misunderstood the comment problem hence thats 
why this subject has splintered off in so many ways[1][2][3], this 
effort will hopefully consolidate this problem(which is really simple[4]).

[1] http://microformats.org/wiki/comments-formats
[2] http://microformats.org/wiki/mfcomment
[3] http://microformats.org/wiki/hcomment
[4] http://microformats.org/wiki/comment-problem


Martin McEvoy


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