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Part of the larger microformats [[advocacy]] effort. Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would improve their usability and ambient findability. | Part of the larger microformats [[advocacy]] effort. Adding [[hcard|hCard]] to these sites would improve their usability and ambient findability. | ||
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**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] | **Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] | ||
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people. | * [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people. | ||
* http://instagram.com/ e.g. http://instagram.com/mikeyk/ should have hCard | |||
** 2012-11-05 contacted mikeyk. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 23:02, 5 November 2012 (UTC) | |||
*** requested [[rel-me]] support. "will get rolled out with next push." (!) | |||
*** requested [[hCard]] support (offered to help add markup). - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] | |||
* http://picasaweb.google.com | * http://picasaweb.google.com | ||
* http://pictures.aol.com | * http://pictures.aol.com | ||
* http://socializr.com | * http://socializr.com | ||
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc. | * Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc. | ||
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do') | **It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do') | ||
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== Online Venues == | == Online Venues == | ||
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup. | There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. [http://local.yahoo.com/ Yahoo Local] venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup. | ||
* http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations | * http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations | ||
** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants | ** [[hcard|hCard]] for restaurants | ||
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* [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)] | * [http://www.whitepages.com.au/ White Pages (Australia)] | ||
* [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]] | * [http://www.switchboard.com/ Stitchboard (USA)]] | ||
* [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)] | * [http://www.whowhere.com/ Lycos People Search (USA)] | ||
* [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)] | * [http://www.bsnl.co.in/map.htm BSNL (India)] | ||
* [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents) | * [http://www.saynoto0870.com/ saynoto0870.com] (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents) | ||
** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] | ** '''Requested''' by feedback form, 2007-10-13. [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]] | ||
* [http://www.farangfriendly.com/ Farang Friendly (Thailand)]] | |||
* [http://www.411locate.com/ 411 Locate (USA)] | |||
==Postal (ZIP) code Finders== | ==Postal (ZIP) code Finders== | ||
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== Successes == | == Successes == | ||
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] | Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like [[hcard-advocacy-successes]]. [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] | ||
=== in 2012 === | |||
* [http://foursquare.com Foursquare] - a location based checkin site | |||
** 2009-272 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] requested and sent sample marked up HTML code from their site to their lead dev HarryH | |||
** 2012-200 verified that venues have hCards and HarryH confirmed that "they've been there for quite some time now." | |||
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=== in 2010 === | === in 2010 === | ||
==== BrightKite ==== | ==== BrightKite ==== |
Latest revision as of 16:24, 18 July 2020
Part of the larger microformats advocacy effort. Adding hCard to these sites would improve their usability and ambient findability.
Online Profiles
Sites to check
The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on hcard-supporting-user-profiles and hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists as well. Feel free to add icons/logos for each of these as well.
- http://amazon.com
- http://aol.com
- http://bebo.com
- http://bloglines.com
- http://blogspot.com
- http://connotea.org
- http://hi5.com
- http://ilike.com
- http://imageshack.us
- http://librarything.com
- http://meetup.com
- http://mugshot.org
- http://multiply.com
- http://myspace.com
- http://network.nature.com
- http://picasaweb.google.com
- http://pictures.aol.com
- http://reader.google.com
- http://reddit.com
- http://smugmug.com
- http://socializr.com
- http://spaces.live.com
- http://stumbleupon.com
- http://touchlocal.com
- http://travelpod.com
- http://tribe.net
- http://tumblr.com
- http://webshots.com
- http://xanga.com
- http://yelp.com
- http://ziki.com
User Profiles
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already support hCard (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them hcard-supporting-user-profiles.
Feel free to add more such sites (please keep alphabetically sorted!) that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do, as well as add icons/logos for each of these as well.
- http://360.yahoo.com
- http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information. Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 User:Tantek requested of User:BenWest e.g.:
- http://amazon.com
- Anobii - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - Julian Stahnke
- Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
- Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
- http://aol.com
- http://bebo.com
- http://bloglines.com
- http://del.icio.us
- Facebook is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
- Requested support of microformats in openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference, and got lukewarm reply. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 Tantek
- Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities. When it's important to our users we'll do it." Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
- Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 Andy Mabbett
- Requested support of microformats in openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference, and got lukewarm reply. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it." Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you. Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 Tantek
- ICQ people, where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
- http://instagram.com/ e.g. http://instagram.com/mikeyk/ should have hCard
- http://picasaweb.google.com
- http://pictures.aol.com
- http://socializr.com
- Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See WikiProject Microformats), Wikitravel, etc.
- It would be nice if [[User:YOURNAME]] links generated proper (mini)hCards. (per SteveIvy; moved from 'to-do')
- http://yelp.com
- http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube has profiles that do include some information (username) that uses hCard.
- http://zooomr.com
appear to be offline
- Dodgeball - see dodgeball-advocacy - taken offline in 2009
- i dub you - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 Tantek 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)
XFN rel me
These sites have a field for the user to enter a URL to their home page or blog, and thus should support rel-me in addition to class="url" on those links inside the user's hCard profile.
hCard XFN friends lists
In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists. Both of these help social-network-portability and help the site become a node on the open-social-web. Feel free to add icons/logos for each of these as well.
appear to be offline
- Dodgeball - see dodgeball-advocacy - taken offline in 2009
Company Profiles
- Satisfaction Unlimited, has company profiles, e.g. http://getsatisfaction.com/satisfaction/ that could be marked up with hCards.
- Contacted Ted Grubb at the company and requested hCards for company and its employees for all their company profiles. Tantek 11:24, 2 Sep 2007 (PDT)
Online Address Books
- ...
Online Venues
There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. Yahoo Local venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.
- http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
- hCard for restaurants
- hCalendar for free busy times at restaurants
- hCalendar for your reservations
- Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. Tantek 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)
- WikiOutdoors
- Could use hCard, Geo, and others
- Requested, 2007-03-14
- Considering Andy Mabbett 04:17, 15 Mar 2007 (PDT)
- Motorway Services Info (UK)
- hCard (& Geo) and hReviewRequested by e-mail, 2007-09-21 Andy Mabbett
Plugins for and modifications of web-applications
Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.
WYSIWYG buttons
In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon ) which simply inserts hCard markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your XFN relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an hCalendar event.
Tools
- forum-software
- blog-software
- http://b2evolution.net
- WordPress
- Moveable Type
- LiveJournal
Telephone Directory Listings
Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):
- BT
- Requested via BT feedback form, 2006-11-13 Andy Mabbett
- BT confirm that they will consider this at their next re-build. 2006-12 Andy Mabbett
- A BT Monkeyformat is available at Userscripts.org which will add hcard markup through GreaseMonkey.
- 118118.com
- Requested via e-mail, 2006-11-13. Andy Mabbett
- 192.com
- Requested via 192.com feedback form, 2007-03-07 Andy Mabbett
- SkypeFind
- Requested' via Skype feedback form, 2007-03-16 Andy Mabbett
- White Pages (USA/ Canada)
- White Pages (Australia)
- Stitchboard (USA)]
- Lycos People Search (USA)
- BSNL (India)
- saynoto0870.com (UK listings of geo vs. non-geo equivalents)
- Requested by feedback form, 2007-10-13. Andy Mabbett
- Farang Friendly (Thailand)]
- 411 Locate (USA)
Postal (ZIP) code Finders
Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. Andy Mabbett 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
e.g. (please add other examples!):
- Royal Mail (UK)
- Requested via Royal Mail feedback form, 2006-11-13 Andy Mabbett
- Acknowledged 2006-11-30. Andy Mabbett
Government hCard
UK Gov. hCard
- Parliament: Alphabetical List of Members of Parliament (see also other lists of MPs and Lords). Andy Mabbett
Europe Gov. hCard
- e.g. UK MEPs
MAPLight
http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.
- individual politicians, like Nancy Pelosi
- mentions of politicians on interest pages like Teachers unions
- their contact info of course: http://www.maplight.org/contact
Requested by Tantek 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.
Organization Contacts
Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. Technorati's contact page for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). Tantek 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
- Adobe
- Adobe offices
- Requested using contact form, 2006-12-14. Andy Mabbett
- Adobe offices
- claimID
- claimID people
- requested via instant message with Terrell Russell (co-founder) 2007-11-20. Tantek
- claimID people
- Google
- Contacts, e.g.
- Google.com contact page
- Requested by asking Google Employee KevinMarks via instant messaging to add hCard to that page along with a "Add to Address Book" link Tantek 11:32, 10 Apr 2007 (PDT) and RyanKing in IRC
- Gmail feature requested in Help Forum > Buzz & Contact category to have hCard included as 'contact sharing/export' feature, Gabriel Dibble 22:56, 29 Jul 2011 (PST)
- Google UK, etc.
- Google.com contact page
- Contacts, e.g.
- IBM
- IBM contact page
- Requested by asking IBM employee Michael Kaply via IRC 2007-07-31 08:57am PDT: "how about getting hCard and 'Add to address book' links on the IBM contact page?"
- IBM contact page
- Mozilla
- Opera
- People, e.g. Håkon Wium Lie; could also be hResume
- W3C
- W3C contact
- W3C Staff listing and individual pages, e.g. Tim Berners-Lee
- Requested by e-mail. Andy Mabbett
Individual hCards
Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:
Trade directories
- BookTrust (UK book publishers)
- Global Electronic Party Information Register (GEPIR) over 1 million companies
- Requested 2007-08-31 Andy Mabbett
- Journa-list
- hCard, rel-tag requested 2007-10-13, by e-mail. Andy Mabbett
Store locators
(see Google search for "store locator"; "about 2,000,000" results!)
people search
- SPOCK
- primarily could use hCard on the search results (this is a search engine for people after all)
- rel-tag namespace possibly
- VoteLinks
- Requested, 2007-09-13 David Mead
Other hCard
- Internet Movie Database (IMDb) for people (real, not characters), e.g. Humphrey Bogart. Andy Mabbett 02:49, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)
- Can't find contact info! Andy Mabbett
- See also example, below.
- Wikitravel
- e.g. Wikitravel - Birmingham
- Wikitravel is about to hugely roll out hCard Mark Jaroski
- See also Wikitravel:Microformats
- e.g. Wikitravel - Birmingham
- WorldCat Identities
- The recently prototyped WorldCat Identities provides pages for 20 million 'identities', mainly authors and people who are the subjects of published titles.
- Requested by feedback form, 2007-03-09 Andy Mabbett
- No reply, as of 02:02, 13 Jun 2007 (PDT)
- GeoNames
- Requested by e-mail, 2007-06-07 Andy Mabbett
- Reply confirms that they will deploy hCard and Geo
- Geo noted in use, 06:08, 30 Jul 2007 (PDT)
- Oxford Dictionary of National Biography (ODNB); subscription based, but some ODNB articles available free. All 56,000+ entries have Date of Death.
- Find-a-Grave e.g. Karl Marx. Most entries have Date of Death.
- Biography.com e.g. Camille Monet Most posthumous entries have Date of Death.
- Commonwealth War Graves Commission (1.75 million people's details)
- E-mail sent 2007-08-24. Andy Mabbett
- Civil Aviation Authority; UK aircraft register
- e.g G-MOUR
- Chicago Everyblock
Successes
Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like hcard-advocacy-successes. Tantek
in 2012
- Foursquare - a location based checkin site
- 2009-272 Tantek requested and sent sample marked up HTML code from their site to their lead dev HarryH
- 2012-200 verified that venues have hCards and HarryH confirmed that "they've been there for quite some time now."
...
...
in 2010
BrightKite
- http://brightkite.com
- 2010-05-16 requested their front-end developer to support hCards for user profiles and venues - Tantek
- 2010-06-09 front-end developer noted that they support hCard for profiles but have problems with vCard conversion - Tantek
- 2010-06-11 followed up and gave advice to fix their hCard (and rel-me) support on user profiles - Tantek 16:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- 2010-06-11 followed up and gave advice for minor fixex to their hCard support on venues - Tantek 16:32, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
- 2010-06-17 success on both! Tantek 05:25, 13 July 2010 (UTC)
- noted in blog post: http://microformats.org/2010/07/08/microformats-org-at-5-hcards-rich-snippets
Basecamp
As requested in the Basecamp Customer Forum (was at http://forum.37signals.com/basecamp/forums/3/topics/9091), "It would be really nice (and stupid easy!) to add microformats to Basecamp, such as hCard on the ‘People’ page. ... constantly looking up phone numbers there, it would be nice to have the option to export into ... address book. ... they could also go in the ‘Who’s talking about this message?’ column too!."
Tweets in support: energy0m
- 2010-07-03 success! Thanks User:Adactio!
in 2009
- 2009-05
- Yelp.com added hCard to all venues.
in 2008
- ...
in 2007
- W3C
- W3C webmaster Jean-Guilhem Rouel now has an hCard. Andy Mabbett 15:41, 4 Apr 2007 (PDT)
- JPG magazine - have sent email to their web developer with sample marked up member profile with hCard and xfn rel="me". Tantek 23:48, 21 Feb 2007 (PST)
- Twitter.com - working on it Tantek 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST).
- Consumating.com - working on it Tantek 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)
- SunlightLabs API provides profiles for US Congresspeople. Their megatable could easily be marked up with hCard, and their APIs could return hCards and hCard fields.
- Tantek 12:30, 20 Apr 2007 (PDT) contacted them and requested that they add hCard to megatable, consider a GethCard API method, and potentially a GethResume API method for each person.
- CarlAnderson 26 Apr 2007: http://sunlightlabs.com/api does now have a people.getHCard.php API method to get an hCard for every member of congress. See the documentation at http://sunlightlabs.com/api/people.getHCard.php. An example call: http://api.sunlightlabs.com/people.getHCard.php?id=fakeopenID1
- CarlAnderson 30 Apr 2007: I created a page of hCards for every member of congress: http://sunlightlabs.com/api/hcards/index.php
- Pownce - I'm talking with them, and have requested the following (and a bit more) as of 2007-07-29 - Tantek
- needs to add class="photo" to image icon
- 2007-09-02 success!
- needs to add class="note" to description
- 2007-09-02 success!
- needs to add hCard+XFN to friends lists.
- 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships. Tantek 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
- 2008-01 success!
- 2007-09-02 partial success, friends lists have hCard, have asked Daniel Burka to add rel="acquaintance" per XFN clarifications for yes/no friend relationships. Tantek 10:41, 3 Sep 2007 (PDT)
- 2007-09-02 note also XFN rel="me" success: http://pownce.com/t/notes/644806/
- needs to add class="photo" to image icon
Wikpedia hCard
- Infobox Templates for people mostly now have hCard in their generated markup
- Infobox_Person; e.g. E. O. Wilson
- Infobox_actor; e.g. Humphrey Bogart
- Addressable buildings e.g. The Old Crown, Birmingham
- Tourist attractions, e.g. Cadbury World
- Companies, e.g. Tesco (note headquarters address in infobox)
- Railway Stations, e.g. Perry Barr
- etc.
- See also WikiProject Microformats Andy Mabbett 13:10, 28 Jan 2007 (PST)
- See also discussion of Wikipedia's Persondata, which aligns very closely with hCard, but has additional date and place of birth & death fields. Andy Mabbett 13:23, 28 Mar 2007 (PDT)
Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example List_of_Gaudi_Buildings
in 2006
- Details of hCard should be added to the Internet Mail Consortium's vCard page
- Requested by e-mail, 2006-11-24 Andy Mabbett
- Success achieved 2006-11-25. Andy Mabbett
See also
- advocacy (in particular see Geo advocacy - for the Geo microformat, including cases where it may be used inside hCard)
- advocacy-email-samples
- hCard
- hCard cheatsheet - hCard properties
- hCard creator (feedback) - create your own hCard.
- hCard authoring - learn how to add hCard markup to your existing contact info.
- hCard examples - example usage of various classes within hCard.
- hCard examples in the wild - an on-going list of websites which use hCards.
- hcard-supporting-user-profiles - sites with user profiles marked up with hCard - a very common example.
- hCard FAQ - if you have any questions about hCard, check here.
- hCard implementations - websites or tools which either generate or parse hCards.
- hCard parsing - normative details of how to parse hCards.
- hCards and pages - semantic distinctions between different hCards on a page, and how to identify each
- hcard-user-interface - techniques and issues surrounding user-interfaces to author, publish, and display hCards.
- hCard profile - the XMDP profile for hCard
- hCard singular properties - an explanation of the list of singular properties in hCard.
- hCard tests - a wiki page with actual embedded hCards to try parsing.
- hCard advocacy - encourage others to use hCard
- hCard "to do" - jobs to do
The hCard specification is a work in progress. As additional aspects are discussed, understood, and written, they will be added. These thoughts, issues, and questions are kept in separate pages.
- hCard brainstorming - brainstorms and other explorations relating to hCard.
- hcard-parsing-brainstorming - brainstorming specific to parsing of hCard
- geo brainstorming
- hCard feedback - general feedback (as opposed to specific issues).
- hCard issues - specific issues with the specification.
- vCard errata - corrections to the vCard specification, which underlies hCard.
- vCard suggestions - suggested improvements to the vCard specification.