events/2007-09-25-social-network-portability

Portable Social Network Micro Meetup at Citizen Space

One of several microformats events on social-network-portability.

Details

Upcoming Event

When

2007-09-25T17:30-0700 - 2007-09-25T20:00-0700

Where

Citizen Space, 425 Second St., #300, San Francisco, CA, USA

What

social-network-portability series.

Attendees

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• Tantek Çelik
• Larry Halff
• Tara Hunt
• Ian McKellar
• Chris Messina
• Luke Sontag
• Ariel Waldman

notes

(taken by Chris Messina)

• privacy models vs semantic relationships
  • livejournal does a good job
  • different contexts
  • decay
  • facebook shows private twitter if you import/aggregate private feeds...
• grand vision of the semantic web...
  • http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:W3c-semantic-web-layers.svg
  • no such thing as universal trust
• xfn
  • folksonomic
  • muse in romantic category... because of classical greek definition
• germany just passed 7 year marriage contract defaults
  • http://buzzfeed.com/buzz/Temporary_Marriages
• decay/churn
  • after X amount of time
  • gestures can renew halflife
  • "vigor"
  • tom morris's blogroll as xfn-based white-list of openID URLs for login/reveal more hCard info
    • http://microformats.org/wiki/openid-brainstorming
  • levels of contacts... social whitelisting by context... or location
• magnolia does recommendations
  • notices email... if someone signs up using that email, messages sent via them
  • need messaging via email/jabber/openid
• every generation is sharing more information for fame and ease of use...
• need incremental benefits over time...
• a lot of networks don't build in support for banning/blocking/abuse
• the convenience of creating and establishing an openid...
  • friending... blocking universally... across all sites...
  • maybe it will prevent abuse because the value to an abuser of a reputable openid is high... i can block people universally based on their single openid...
• pownce... you add someone as friend... goes into friend requests... accept friend / no, leave as fan
• openid for friends: add as friend, leave as fan, deny
• drop friend requests list... only have fans list... then check your fans list to add someone as a friend...
• be able to request the ability to follow... without annoying someone with a friend request...
• no way to remove fans from your page
• people feel bad listing best friends ... myspace/facebook? people will lie... people will go after someone's best friends...
• people on livejournal edit their friends list often... there's a cost to having a long list of friends... binge and purge is how you cloak decay
• give choice on length of expiration...
• decay could fall all the way down to fandom

• proximity + context + group (grid model...)... time, tags, geo...
• imagine your friends as records in the itunes library... all the different types of smart filters...
• how or do you re-share information?

• • Groups**

• on openid endpoint... could list rel-groups... site could pull in all your groups... and subscribe to them... if you remove a link to a group, you've unsubscribed
• use oauth to maintain our list of groups?

see also

• social-network-portability
• hcard-supporting-user-profiles
• hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists
• hCard
• XFN

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