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Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].
Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles|support hCard]] (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them [[hcard-supporting-user-profiles]].


Feel free to add more such sites that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do, as well as add icons/logos for each of these as well.
Feel free to add more such sites (please keep alphabetically sorted!) that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do, as well as add icons/logos for each of these as well.
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
 
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information.  Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
* http://alexa.com has online profiles for domains with contact information.  Would be great if they could add hCard to those. 2007-04-18 [[User:Tantek]] requested of [[User:BenWest]] e.g.:
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=alexa.com/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
** http://www.alexa.com/data/details?url=w3.org/
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] - see [[dodgeball-advocacy]]
* http://amazon.com  
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube has profiles that do include some information (username) that uses [[hcard|hCard]].
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it."  Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you.  Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities.  When it's important to our users we'll do it."  Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
* [http://anobii.com Anobii] - I asked them if they could implement hCard-supporting profiles and XFN on 2007-10-05 - [[User:JulianStahnke|Julian Stahnke]]
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Response: We will definitely spend some time to consider the suggestion.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
** Got another mail from one of their developers, they’re looking into it.
* http://360.yahoo.com
* http://amazon.com
* http://aol.com  
* http://aol.com  
* http://bebo.com
* http://bebo.com
* http://bloglines.com  
* http://bloglines.com  
* http://brightkite.com
** 2010-05-16 requested their front-end developer to support hCards for user profiles and venues - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** 2010-06-09 front-end developer noted that they support hCard for profiles but have problems with vCard conversion - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
** 2010-06-11 followed up and gave advice to fix their hCard (and rel-me) support on user profiles - [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 16:31, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
* http://del.icio.us
* http://del.icio.us
* [http://www.facebook.com Facebook] is a very popular (over 13 million members) community.
**Requested support of microformats in [http://flickr.com/photos/56624456@N00/1399881855/ openly asked question to Mark Zuckerberg (founder of Facebook) during Q&A at TechCrunch40 conference], and got [http://therealmccrea.wordpress.com/2007/09/18/facebook-to-support-open-standards/ lukewarm reply]. Glimmer of hope: "When it's important to our users, we'll do it."  Thus if you are a Facebook user, please make a request to them to support microformats and tell them it is important to you.  Feel free to add your name below. 2007-09-17 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]]
*** Additional notes of Mark's response to Q above: "fits into context of push to open up in more ways, but keep in mind we're a really small company, under 300, so with respect to open standards, it's a matter of priorities.  When it's important to our users we'll do it."  Notes taken by John McCrea of Plaxo at TechCrunch40 conference.
**Requested in message to developer, 2007-09-28 [[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]]
* [http://www.icq.com/people ICQ people], where they show people's profiles and have a few ways of contacting and/or connection to people.
* http://picasaweb.google.com  
* http://picasaweb.google.com  
* http://pictures.aol.com  
* http://pictures.aol.com  
* http://socializr.com  
* http://socializr.com  
* http://viddler.com
* Wikimedia - including this site, Wikipedia (See [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Microformats WikiProject Microformats]), Wikitravel, etc.
**It would be nice if <nowiki>[[User:YOURNAME]]</nowiki> links generated proper (mini)hCards. ([http://microformats.org/wiki?title=to-do&diff=12177&oldid=12173#Lazyweb per SteveIvy]; moved from 'to-do')
* http://yelp.com  
* http://yelp.com  
* http://youtube.com  
* http://youtube.com The very popular YouTube has profiles that do include some information (username) that uses [[hcard|hCard]].
* http://zooomr.com
* http://zooomr.com
* http://viddler.com


==== appear to be offline ====
==== appear to be offline ====
* [http://dodgeball.com/ Dodgeball] - see [[dodgeball-advocacy]] - taken offline in 2009
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)
* [http://idubyou.com/ i dub you] - appears to be 404 as of 2008-02-02 [[User:Tantek|Tantek]] 20:28, 2 Feb 2008 (PST)


Revision as of 16:31, 10 June 2010

<entry-title>hCard advocacy</entry-title>

Part of the larger microformats advocacy effort. Adding hCard to these sites would improve their usability and ambient findability.

Online Profiles

Sites to check

The following sites may have hCard or XFN support and need to be checked and placed into lists on hcard-supporting-user-profiles and hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists as well. Feel free to add icons/logos for each of these as well.

User Profiles

Nearly every website that has a login has a page representing the public profile of the user that other users can see and interact with. Many such sites already support hCard (e.g. ClaimID.com, Flickr.com, Technorati.com). Here are some that I think would benefit from the addition of hCard to their profile / user pages, making them hcard-supporting-user-profiles.

Feel free to add more such sites (please keep alphabetically sorted!) that have a social network profile-like component and we'll see what we can do, as well as add icons/logos for each of these as well.

appear to be offline

XFN rel me

These sites have a field for the user to enter a URL to their home page or blog, and thus should support rel-me in addition to class="url" on those links inside the user's hCard profile.

hCard XFN friends lists

In addition, if sites with people profiles have friends lists, we should encourage them to add support for hcard-xfn-supporting-friends-lists. Both of these help social-network-portability and help the site become a node on the open-social-web. Feel free to add icons/logos for each of these as well.

Company Profiles

Online Address Books

Basecamp

As requested in the Basecamp Customer Forum, "It would be really nice (and stupid easy!) to add microformats to Basecamp, such as hCard on the ‘People’ page. ... constantly looking up phone numbers there, it would be nice to have the option to export into ... address book. ... they could also go in the ‘Who’s talking about this message?’ column too!." Tweets in support:

Online Venues

There are many sites that offer pages that represent organizations and venues that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. Yahoo Local venues are marked up with hCards for example. Here are some more sites that have venues that would benefit from hCard markup.

  • Foursquare - a location based checkin site
    • 2009-272 Tantek requested and sent sample marked up HTML code from their site to their lead dev HarryH
  • http://opentable.com - a site for making restaurant reservations
    • hCard for restaurants
    • hCalendar for free busy times at restaurants
    • hCalendar for your reservations
    • Tantek has emailed a friend who is a former employee of OpenTable with the above three requests, in the hopes she can pass on the message. In addition, Ryan King may know someone in marketing there. Tantek 16:57, 30 Sep 2007 (PDT)
  • WikiOutdoors
  • Motorway Services Info (UK)
    • hCard (& Geo) and hReviewRequested by e-mail, 2007-09-21 Andy Mabbett

Plugins for and modifications of web-applications

Many web-applications use plugin-systems to change their behavior and content. Most notable is probably web-forums and blogs. Many of these have a community of coders that develop plugins or code to modify the default behavior of these web-applications. Here are some sites where it might be interesting to develop hcard-related plugins/mods.

WYSIWYG buttons

In addition to getting them to markup obvious references to users/usernames with hCard, it would be great to see them update their WYSIWYG authoring interfaces (little creator/style buttons that often line up just above the top of a blog post editing textarea for creating links, lists etc.) to add a "person" button (perhaps with an icon user.gif) which simply inserts hCard markup for you, or better yet, lets you pick someone from your address book, and then inserts an inline hCard with their name, URL (and perhaps even your XFN relationship to them) for you. While they're at it, perhaps a similar button/feature for easily inserting an hCalendar event.

Tools

Telephone Directory Listings

Telephone Directory Listings could usefully apply hCard to their results pages, e.g. (please add other examples!):

Postal (ZIP) code Finders

Postal code Finders could usefully apply hCard to their results pages. Andy Mabbett 12:09, 13 Nov 2006 (PST)

e.g. (please add other examples!):

Government hCard

UK Gov. hCard

Europe Gov. hCard

MAPLight

http://maplight.org/ can use a bunch of hCard markup, e.g.

Requested by Tantek 12:13, 30 May 2007 (PDT) in person at the NetSquared2007 conference.

Organization Contacts

Many companies and organizations have about or contact pages that could benefit from being marked up with hCard. Technorati's contact page for example is both marked up with hCard and has a convenient "Add to Address Book" hCard to vCard converter link. The following company sites could benefit from similar markup (and, until user agents support hCards natively, "Add to Address Book" links). Tantek 17:44, 13 Dec 2006 (PST)

Individual hCards

Getting these sites to at least add hCard to their home page or contact info page and then ping Pingerati would be an excellent start with getting them some experience with microformats and thinking about adding microformats to other places in their sites that make sense:

Trade directories

Store locators

(see Google search for "store locator"; "about 2,000,000" results!)

people search

  • SPOCK
    • primarily could use hCard on the search results (this is a search engine for people after all)
    • rel-tag namespace possibly
    • VoteLinks
    • Requested, 2007-09-13 David Mead

Other hCard

Successes

Perhaps we can consider moving successes to a separate page, like hcard-advocacy-successes. Tantek

Wikpedia hCard

Some microformat data is now (2007-09-14) being removed from Wikipedia; see, for example List_of_Gaudi_Buildings

See also

The hCard specification is a work in progress. As additional aspects are discussed, understood, and written, they will be added. These thoughts, issues, and questions are kept in separate pages.

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