mediawiki-mark-up-issues

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MediaWiki mark-up issues

Issues with adding microformat mark-up to sites using MediaWiki (http://www.mediawiki.org/) (such as this wiki, and Wikipedia (http://wikipedia.org)).

If you know of a solution, or work-around, please post it!

Author

Andy Mabbett

Contributor(s)

Jeff McNeill

URLs

  • Wiki mark-up such as [http://example.com sample text] (which displays as sample text (http://example.com)) cannot have a class="url" added to the output "A" element.
    • Workaround (if display of the URL is acceptable): use <span class="url">http://example.com</span> (which displays as http://example.com)
    • Workaround (if display of the URL is not acceptable): ???
      • Why not just use <span class="url">[http://example.com sample text]</span>? --Tgrtalk / home 06:16, 9 Aug 2007 (PDT)
        • Returns a value of "sample text" Andy Mabbett 02:12, 10 Aug 2007 (PDT)
  • The ExtendAnchorTags (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ExtendAnchorTags) extension provides a work around using <xa></xa> tags, e.g.
<xa class="fn org" href="http://microformats.org/">microformats</xa>

will produce

<a fn class="fn org" href="http://microformats.org/>microformats</a> --jeffmcneill 17:22, 20 Oct 2007 (PDT)

Rel

  • Similarly, MediaWiki does not appear to support the use of the rel attribute on internal or external links.

Tables

  • In the following code snippet (from an "infobox (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:WikiProject_Infoboxes)" table with an included hCard):


{| class="infobox vcard" 
| class="fn org" | '''{{{name}}}'''
|-
{{#if: {{{address|}}} |
! Address
{{!}} <span class="street-address">{{{address}}}}}</span>
|-
{{#if:{{{city|}}} |
! City
{{!}} <span class="locality">{{{city|}}}}}</span>
|-
{{#if:{{{country|}}} |
! Country
{{!}} <span class="country-name">{{{country|}}}}}</span>
|-
{{#if:{{{latitude|}}} |
!
{{!}} <{{Coord|{{{latitude}}}|{{{longitude}}}|display=title}} }}
|}

there is nowhere to hang the required class="adr", such that it wraps the three relevant table rows, and no others.
  • you can give a row a class (or any other valid HTML attribute) with {{!}} class="adr" {{!}} <span... --Tgrtalk / home 06:16, 9 Aug 2007 (PDT)
    • The need is not to apply a class to a single row, but (as stated) to apply it to (in this example) "the three relevant table rows, and no others". Andy Mabbett 02:14, 10 Aug 2007 (PDT)
      • It seems this is a challenge with HTML tables and not necessarily MediaWiki? Please advise --jeffmcneill 17:22, 20 Oct 2007 (PDT)
        • Partly; but in HTML you can hang an intermediate class on <tbody>. Andy Mabbett 15:42, 19 Jan 2008 (PST)

Abbr

  • MediaWiki supports the use of the abbr element, but this is disabled by some implementations (e.g. Wikipedia)
    • See title-trigger for a proposed alternative to the abbr-design-pattern, which would work on Wikipedia.
      • A mediawiki extension EnableAbbrTags (http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:EnableAbbrTags) can support abbr by using a new xabbr command

Dtend

  • The work-around for date-time pattern on Wikipedia (for example, birthdays in hCard) has been to use templates to output something like:

24 February 1993 (<span class="bday" style="display:none">1993-02-24</span>)

which degrades gracefully if CSS is not available. It is not acceptable to do so, to show the date advanced by one day for end-dates in hCalendar.

XMDP

  • As with many CMSs, there is no facility for an editor to add an XMDP URI to (or in any other way to alter) the head element.
    • Extensions can do this, working on it... --jeffmcneill 17:22, 20 Oct 2007 (PDT)

Address

Address elements cannot be added to page content.

<address class="vcard">The <span class="fn org">Microformat community</span></address>

displays as:

<address class="vcard">The Microformat community</address>
  • Not sure how this is a problem, which microformat uses this format? Markup within divs such as
    <div class="adr"></div>
    work fine. --jeffmcneill 01:14, 21 Oct 2007 (PDT)

Mediawiki extension development

  • Are there any generic xml parsers/other extensions under development to provide support for some (most?) of the microformat needs? Is semantic mediawiki (http://ontoworld.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki) a possible candidate for microformat support?
    • It appears that semantic mediawiki is trying to do something different, namely OWL compliance. Based on the mediawiki description of the semantic mediawiki project (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Semantic_MediaWiki), hacks are to some extent discouraged (which to my mind is the orientation of Microformats). --jeffmcneill 13:41, 18 Oct 2007 (PDT)
  • Am working out the extensions needed to address this. --jeffmcneill 17:22, 20 Oct 2007 (PDT)
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