[uf-discuss] Authoritative hCards [was RE: Canonical hCards (was: Search on CSS element)]

Ryan King ryan at technorati.com
Wed Feb 7 11:54:36 PST 2007

On Jan 30, 2007, at 2:28 PM, John Allsopp wrote:

> Chris,
> (all the following simply thoughts in the spirit of brainstorming,  
> rather than any particular argument in favour of my original  
> suggestion)
>> I pretty much came up with a very similar proposal for handling this
>> issue, though from the standpoint of XFN-links, and I think that
>> John's suggestion is very good, though instead of using "bookmark
>> self" might suggest "me self" for identifying the One True Hcard:
>> <div class="vcard" id="vcard">
>>  <address><a href="http://factoryjoe.com/blog/hcard/#hcard" class="fn
>> url" rel="me self">Chris Messina</a></address>
>>  <div class="org">Citizen Agency</a>
>>  ...
>> </div>
> I wonder whether hAtom had predated XFN, self instead of me would  
> have been chosen for the identity value?
> The "definition" of the self attribute value in Atom is "self: the  
> feed itself". The term "the" seems to indicate "definitiveness".  
> So, I was initially going to argue that "self me" was tautological,  
> but in fact, in this sense it is not, and indeed, the addition of  
> bookmark is probably tautological.

Right, 'self' implies singular and is supposed to signal the URI (or  
IRI) for the feed itself, not an alternative representation or  
related resource elsewhere.

'me' just means another resource that represents the same person.

> So, I'd probably +1 this suggestion, and perhaps also suggest that  
> for hReview simply a rel value of "self" be required for the  
> permalink, for consistency.

rel=bookmark is in HTML4, there's no reason to ignore it.


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