[uf-discuss] abbr with empty or no title (was: Re: marking up initials in names)

Dmitry Baranovskiy dmitry.baranovskiy at gmail.com
Tue Jan 1 13:30:41 PST 2008


I think parsers should ignore abbr without title. It looks quite  
logical.

Best,
Dmitry Baranovskiy
http://dmitry.baranovskiy.com/

Optimus: http://microformatique.com/optimus/

On 02/01/2008, at 3:42 AM, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk>  
wrote:

> In message <m2k5muvj65.fsf at gmail.com>, Edward O'Connor
> <hober0 at gmail.com> writes
>
>> Andy Mabbett wrote:
>>
>>> I have a need to mark up some people's names, which are given as
>>> initials only, and where the full names for which those initials  
>>> stand
>>> are not known. For example, "A. N. Other".
>> [...]
>>> In the absence of an "initials" property, how would you mark up  
>>> such a
>>> name, in an hCard?
>>
>> How about <abbr> without @title?
>
> Semantically, that might make sense (and is valid HTML), but how would
> parsers handle missing titles, given the abbr-design-pattern? [1]
>
> There is still the issue of what class names are most apt, though.
>
>
> [1] Two examples at the start of:
>
>        <http://www.westmidlandbirdclub.com/test/>
>
> which Operator handles (plaudits due!) but for which X2V returns null
> values.
>
> Is this something else which needs clarifying and codifying in the
> abbr-design-pattern spec?
>
> I've added it to the issues page:
>
>  <http://microformats.org/wiki?title=abbr-design-pattern- 
> issues#Issues>
>
> -- 
> Andy Mabbett
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