Regaining focus (Was: [uf-discuss] Unjust banning of Andy Mabbett)
scott at randomchaos.com
Fri Mar 14 13:41:59 PST 2008
On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:45 PM, Manu Sporny wrote:
> I just got back from vacation, otherwise this would have gone out
I'm likewise back from vacation now, so just now responding to this.
> It has come to my attention that Andy Mabbett has been banned by
> the admins for 18 months.
> This is an unjust punishment, especially considering that he is one of
> the largest contributors to our community.
I think it's a mistake to view this as a punishment. It's primarily
an attempt to optimize how we spend our time. We decided we were
wasting too much time on matters that shouldn't be our focus, and that
removing Andy would be the best way to help us refocus on our
priorities. I don't mean to imply there's complete agreement about
those priorities, just to explain the thinking behind the decision.
If there's disagreement about our priorities, that's probably more
useful to talk about.
> - Andy is one of our most prolific contributors, this community will
> harmed by such a long-term ban.
As others have pointed out, the latter statement does not follow from
> - An 18 month ban does not fit Andy's behavior - it is an unjust
It doesn't really fit Andy's behavior so much as the community's
behavior in response to Andy. A better community could maybe maintain
focus on microformats with Andy active, but we are not that community.
> - Andy was tried as guilty, without complete documentation.
Additional documentation was promised and should be forthcoming, so
that everyone can better understand this decision. But I again think
it's a mistake to view this from a legal perspective and treat that
documentation as some sort of evidence.
> - Andy pushes the limits in this community, and because of him, we
> what is and is not acceptable in this community.
That's certainly a bright side, but I don't think it's enough reason
to allow the community to lose its focus.
> - Andy says what some of the rest of us are thinking, and he shouldn't
> be banned for such an extreme length of time for voicing his opinion.
I agree; that was not the reason for the ban. I trust Andy will
continue voicing his opinion in other forums.
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