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<h2>Authors</h2>
<h2>Authors</h2>
<ul>
<ul>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/log/">Tantek</nowiki></pre>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/log/">Tantek &#0199;elik</a></li>
<!-- numerical character entities work for XHTML and XML in general,
whereas named character entities only work in HTML and *some* XHTML user agents -->
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="#">Rohit Khare</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://meyerweb.com/">Eric A. Meyer</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://www.markbaker.ca">Mark Baker</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://www.wiredpen.com/">Kathy Gill</a></li>
<li class="vcard fn">Bert Bos
 
<li> ***** add your hcard here *****</li>
 
<li>&amp; other participants from the Microformats track on Dev Day at WWW 2005</li>
 
</ul>
 
<br> Solution?
<br>Author -- should use hCard. OK
 
<br>Mulitple authors? Multiple hCards.
<br> use hidden SPANs?
<br> use CSS classes for k-authors: 1st-author, 2nd-author? generic "author" class?
<br> ol + span?
 
<br> how to "loft" dc:author inot microformats use in CSS class= attrs? --
<em>create an XMDP for Dublin Core (creator, etc)</em>
<pre>
.author + .author + .author + .author {display: none}
.author + .author + .author {content: " et al."}
</pre>
 
 
 
<h2> Existing Example</h2>
<p>Let's start with a concrete example of a particular bibliography presentation
</p>
<pre>
[1] Goland, Y. Y., Nottingham, M. and Orchard, D. WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91.
BEA Systems, WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91, Feb 26 2003 2003.
http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/WS-CallBack-0_9.jsp
</pre>
 
<p>How would we mark that up?</p>
 
<pre class="example">
&lt;span class="vcard"&gt;
&lt;span class="fn n"&gt;
  &lt;span class="family-name "&lt;Goland&lt;/span&gt;,
  &lt;abbr class="given-name" title="Yaron"&gt;Y.&lt;/abbr&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
&lt;/span&gt;
 
</pre>
 
<h2>Goals</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Stop having to re-key references!</strong></li>
<li>Adapt to new Journal styles solely by changin the CSS?</li>
</ol>
 
<h2>Why a Microformat?</h2>
<ol>
<li><strong>Presentation matters!</strong></li>
<li>A predecessor format exists:
<ul>
<li>BibTeX</li>
<li>Endnote</li>
<li>Dublin Core</li>
</ul>
</li>
</ol>
 
<hr>
<strong>the microformats way</strong>
<ul><li>
solve a specific problem
</li><li>
make evolutionary improvements
</li><li>
be as simple as possible, perhaps solve a simpler problem first
</li><li>
adapt to current behaviors and usage patterns, e.g. (X)HTML, blogging
</li><li>
presentable <em>and</em> parsable
</li><li>
reuse existing microformats and well established schemas (e.g. IETF RFCs) as building blocks
</li><li>
design to be reused and embedded inside existing formats and microformats
</li><li>
enable and encourage decentralized development and services
</li>    </ul>
<hr>
 
<h2>The Microformats Checklist</h2>
<dl>
<dt>Specific Problem?</dt>
<dd>Are we close? the library science rathole is pretty deep, folks....</dd>
</dl>
 
 
 
<h2>Notes</h2>
<p>Typically have access to "rendered"/"flattened" papers without the structured data</p>
 
</nowiki></pre>

Revision as of 02:52, 6 July 2007

hBib Description 2005-05-14

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For current related efforts, see citation.

The following document was created, collaboratively edited live 2005-05-14 during the WWW2005 workshop and presentations on microformats. 

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<body style="font-size:130%">

<h1>hBib: une charette</h1>
<p><em>an interactive design session</em></p>

<h2>Authors</h2>
<ul>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://tantek.com/log/">Tantek Çelik</a></li> 
 <!-- numerical character entities work for XHTML and XML in general, 
whereas named character entities only work in HTML and *some* XHTML user agents -->
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="#">Rohit Khare</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://meyerweb.com/">Eric A. Meyer</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://www.markbaker.ca">Mark Baker</a></li>
<li class="vcard"><a class="url fn" href="http://www.wiredpen.com/">Kathy Gill</a></li>
<li class="vcard fn">Bert Bos

<li> ***** add your hcard here *****</li>

<li>& other participants from the Microformats track on Dev Day at WWW 2005</li>

</ul>

<br> Solution?
<br>Author -- should use hCard. OK

<br>Mulitple authors? Multiple hCards.
<br> use hidden SPANs?
<br> use CSS classes for k-authors: 1st-author, 2nd-author? generic "author" class?
<br> ol + span?

<br> how to "loft" dc:author inot microformats use in CSS class= attrs? -- 
<em>create an XMDP for Dublin Core (creator, etc)</em>
<pre>
.author + .author + .author + .author {display: none}
.author + .author + .author {content: " et al."}


Existing Example

Let's start with a concrete example of a particular bibliography presentation 

[1] Goland, Y. Y., Nottingham, M. and Orchard, D. WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91.
 BEA Systems, WS-CallBack Protocol 0.91, Feb 26 2003 2003. 
 http://dev2dev.bea.com/technologies/webservices/WS-CallBack-0_9.jsp

How would we mark that up?

<span class="vcard">
 <span class="fn n">
  <span class="family-name "<Goland</span>, 
  <abbr class="given-name" title="Yaron">Y.</abbr>
 </span>
</span>

Goals

  1. Stop having to re-key references!
  2. Adapt to new Journal styles solely by changin the CSS?

Why a Microformat?

  1. Presentation matters!
  2. A predecessor format exists:
    • BibTeX
    • Endnote
    • Dublin Core

the microformats way

  • solve a specific problem
  • make evolutionary improvements
  • be as simple as possible, perhaps solve a simpler problem first
  • adapt to current behaviors and usage patterns, e.g. (X)HTML, blogging
  • presentable and parsable
  • reuse existing microformats and well established schemas (e.g. IETF RFCs) as building blocks
  • design to be reused and embedded inside existing formats and microformats
  • enable and encourage decentralized development and services

The Microformats Checklist

Specific Problem?
Are we close? the library science rathole is pretty deep, folks....


Notes

Typically have access to "rendered"/"flattened" papers without the structured data

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