[microformats-discuss] Proposing RelSource

[Tantek Ç elik]

Good points Bud.

On 7/12/05 7:55 AM, "Bud Gibson" <bud at thecommunityengine.com> wrote:

> Does this really clear up who is an original source or not?  It just
> shows you are citing someone else.  They could be original or not.

There is also the question of whether you can actually tell when blogging
what someone else (even a PR News etc. source) said, whether  they are the
original source or not.

> Also, it does not help with the citation chain.  For instance, you
> may be citing an original source that you found out about through
> some other cite.  I personally almost never do that, but others do.

I see lots of examples of citation chains on blogs.

So yes, rel="cite" does not solve the citation chain problem.

Since these examples of citation chains on blogs are typically ordered, e.g.

 c via b via a

It may make sense to use an ordered list.

Then the only question remains as to how to represent that the list is a
chain.

> Just 2 cents.

I'll take that kind of cents anytime.

Tantek


> On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:42, Andy Skelton wrote:
> 
>> It should have come to attention sooner but I dug around W3C.org and
>> found that rel="cite" is already defined in the XHTML 2.0 Hypertext
>> Attribute Collection
>> (http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml2/mod-hyperAttributes.html).
>> 
>> Also from that collection, href and cite attributes are defined and
>> may coexist but they behave differently: The href attribute "specifies
>> a URI that is actuated when the element is activated." For the cite
>> attribute, "User Agents MUST provide a means for the user to actuate
>> the link."
>> 
>> In light of this, I see no reason to pursue a microformat for source
>> links/citations/hat tips. If authors adopt rel="cite" they are
>> preemptively applying a well-defined, semantic model that is both
>> user-friendly and easily parsed by machines.
>> 
>> The subject of distributed discussion and markup indicating replies,
>> updates, etc., is discussed at
>> http://microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Andy
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