[microformats-discuss] Proposing RelSource
Tantek Ç elik
tantek at cs.stanford.edu
Tue Jul 12 09:45:58 PDT 2005
Good points Bud.
On 7/12/05 7:55 AM, "Bud Gibson" <bud at thecommunityengine.com> wrote:
> Does this really clear up who is an original source or not? It just
> shows you are citing someone else. They could be original or not.
There is also the question of whether you can actually tell when blogging
what someone else (even a PR News etc. source) said, whether they are the
original source or not.
> Also, it does not help with the citation chain. For instance, you
> may be citing an original source that you found out about through
> some other cite. I personally almost never do that, but others do.
I see lots of examples of citation chains on blogs.
So yes, rel="cite" does not solve the citation chain problem.
Since these examples of citation chains on blogs are typically ordered, e.g.
c via b via a
It may make sense to use an ordered list.
Then the only question remains as to how to represent that the list is a
> Just 2 cents.
I'll take that kind of cents anytime.
> On Jul 12, 2005, at 9:42, Andy Skelton wrote:
>> It should have come to attention sooner but I dug around W3C.org and
>> found that rel="cite" is already defined in the XHTML 2.0 Hypertext
>> Attribute Collection
>> Also from that collection, href and cite attributes are defined and
>> may coexist but they behave differently: The href attribute "specifies
>> a URI that is actuated when the element is activated." For the cite
>> attribute, "User Agents MUST provide a means for the user to actuate
>> the link."
>> In light of this, I see no reason to pursue a microformat for source
>> links/citations/hat tips. If authors adopt rel="cite" they are
>> preemptively applying a well-defined, semantic model that is both
>> user-friendly and easily parsed by machines.
>> The subject of distributed discussion and markup indicating replies,
>> updates, etc., is discussed at
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