[microformats-discuss] reblogging needs proper citation, source attribution, as does localization/translation

Bud Gibson bud at thecommunityengine.com
Thu Jul 14 15:05:48 PDT 2005

[In a questioning tone]

I'm not entirely sure why you would need a blockquote.  Would I need  
a blockquote for your hCard if I reblogged it?

On Jul 14, 2005, at 17:15, Tantek Çelik wrote:

> On Jul 14, 2005, at 1:52 PM, Kevin Marks wrote:
>>> We can copy data from one site or page to another without losing the
>>> structure.  For example, we can reblog a blog entry without  
>>> losing the
>>> original comment-submission URL.  Or, we can copy an event listing
>>> from the promoter's site to an event aggregator and from the
>>> aggregator to the user's calendar.  ...all with plain old web apps.
>> Lucas, I've been meaning to ask you about citation-wrapping on  
>> that - some of the examples I've seen have made it hard to tell  
>> which is a reblogged element and which is commentary by the  
>> reblogger. Perhaps you can join in the
>> http://www.microformats.org/wiki/citation-brainstorming
> Agreed. There needs to be proper <blockquote>ing built into any  
> such reblogging with use of the 'cite' attribute to link to the  
> original, and perhaps a user-visible hyperlinked <cite><a  
> href="...">blogged from</a></cite> as well.
> Reblogging should not mean stealing, but right now, this is what  
> often appears to happen -- bloggers stealing content and not giving  
> attribution, nor linking to the source, nor distinguishing it from  
> their own content.  I'm sure we've all seen examples of this.
> As Kevin pointed out, this problem has a lot of overlap with the  
> citation-brainstorming efforts, and solving this problem seems  
> *especially* critical for reblogging, especially perhaps citing the  
> "original" source (rel="original"?) in addition to citing whereever  
> the content was reblogged from.
> The "what was the original" problem also has overlap with the  
> problem of localizations/translations of sites, where it is not  
> always obvious what was the original (certainly not mechanically),  
> though while rel="alternate" helps to at least say "here is an  
> alternate representation".
> Thanks,
> Tantek
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