[uf-discuss] communications log marked up semantically using uF's.

[Tantek Ç elik]

On 11/25/05 10:16 AM, "Simon Kittle" <si at kittle.co.uk> wrote:

> That's a good question - the reason I did it like that (and I'm open to
> correction) is that in the sort of data I'm trying to represent you often
> won't have a vCard - it's optional.

Makes sense.


> You'll just have a number that was the
> start point of the event.  It maybe you then end up needing to add a vcard
> for general notes and further info on the call "event", as it were, but as
> well as many times this not being available,

Yes.


> many times also the vCard won't
> belong to the number that is being logged.  (You call voicemail and take
> some notes, including point of contact with tel - but it's the voicemail
> number that was the originating call - or you call one place get
> transferred, etc, etc).

Or someone you know (insert hCard) calls you from someone else's phone
number (which obviously won't be in their hCard).  Though this happens
*less* often with cell phones, it still happens quite a bit when people
borrow each others' cell phones etc.


> Is it legal to have vcards without names?

No.  FN and N are required in vCard, and thus in hCard as well, except for
the N property shortcut (see spec for details).

> And even is so, I thought perhaps
> it was overkill to have a vcard that many times will just be a phone number
> especially then when you have another vcard for the point of contact.

Agreed.

Good analysis Simon.

Thanks,

Tantek


>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org
>> [mailto:microformats-discuss-bounces at microformats.org] On
>> Behalf Of Dr. Ernie Prabhakar
>> Sent: 25 November 2005 18:00
>> To: Microformats Discuss
>> Subject: Re: [uf-discuss] communications log marked up
>> semantically using uF's.
>> 
>> Hi Simon,
>> 
>> Just out of curiosity, why isn't the phone number part of the vcard?
>> Is that number not associated with that contact person?
>> 
>> -- Ernie P.
>> 
>> On Nov 25, 2005, at 7:38 AM, Simon Kittle wrote:
>> 
>>> <div class="telcall">
>>> <!-- tel elemental uF -->
>>> <div class="tel"><span class="value">+44 (0)7860 138
>> 086</span> <span
>>> class="type">mobile</span></div>
>>> 
>>> <!-- type of telcall -->
>>> <span class="type">Incoming</span><br />
>>> 
>>> <!-- using date-time-design pattern --> <abbr class="dtstart"
>>> title="2005-11-24T22:36:00">24 Nov, 22:36</
>>> abbr> -
>>> <abbr class="dtend" title="2005-11-24T22:46:00">22:46</abbr><br />
>>> 
>>> <!-- optional contact, specified as a vcard --> <div
>> class="contact">
>>> <div class="vcard"><span class="fn">David</span> - <span
>>> class="org">NTL</span></div> </div> <div class="notes">Spoke about
>>> blah blah,  arranged blah to be done on blah blah.</div> </div>
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Any thoughts on how this could be improved would be greatly
>>> apprecieated.
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