[uf-discuss] Microformats UI in Firefox 3

[Alex Faaborg]

> I've understood that it's inserted by the web developer to enable  
> him/her to implement the Microformat-actions in their own designs  
> and it's suggested that the class "user-action" should be used to  
> indicate that something is meant to be a link to such an action.

Yes, while previous Firefox designs have focused on the browser  
injecting UI into the page, this discussion is about how the content  
creator should provide links and buttons for acting on microformatted  
content.

> Another problem might be that the browser will be changing the  
> visibility property because that disables the designer from turning  
> of the action-div's visibility. For example - the designer wants  
> the action-button/link to only be shown when you hover over the  
> hCard it's connected to, therefor the designer hides it by setting  
> the visibility property to hidden and changing it upon hover. If  
> the browser then changes the visibility the design won't look like  
> it was intended to.

Yeah, that's a good point.

-Alex




On Aug 28, 2007, at 4:53 AM, Pelle W wrote:

> André Luís skrev:
>> One thing I need someone to clarify:
>>
>> Is that  div.user-action inserted by the user-agent, in this case,
>> Firefox 3? Or do the authors have to include that code on their  
>> pages?
>>
>> This wasn't very clear to me...
>>
> I've understood that it's inserted by the web developer to enable  
> him/her to implement the Microformat-actions in their own designs  
> and it's suggested that the class "user-action" should be used to  
> indicate that something is meant to be a link to such an action.
>> On 8/28/07, Andy Mabbett <andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> In message <694BBF6E-7DC6-477A-8618-E1721FDA4441 at mozilla.com>, Alex
>>> Faaborg <faaborg at mozilla.com> writes
>>>
>>>> The last class is new:
>>>>  <div class="user-action" style="visibility:hidden">Add to Address
>>>> Book</div>
>>>>
>>>> The text "Add to Address Book" is hidden by default, unless the  
>>>> browser
>>>> (or an extension) recognizes user-action
>>>>
>>> ...or unless the user agent has no CSS functionality available.
>>>
>>> Is that "degrading gracefully"?
>>>
> What I don't understand in thate example is that the "user-action"  
> is applied onto a div which doesn't contain any links or buttons.  
> An action is most often initiated by clicking on either a link or a  
> button. Will the browser add such a control? If so the control over  
> the design won't be completely handed over to the designer which it  
> should be.
>
> Another problem might be that the browser will be changing the  
> visibility property because that disables the designer from turning  
> of the action-div's visibility. For example - the designer wants  
> the action-button/link to only be shown when you hover over the  
> hCard it's connected to, therefor the designer hides it by setting  
> the visibility property to hidden and changing it upon hover. If  
> the browser then changes the visibility the design won't look like  
> it was intended to.
>
> If a class is to be used it should only connect an action and not  
> add anything or change anything about the site.
>
> / Pelle W
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