[uf-discuss] uF dumped in tag soup?

Ben Wiley Sittler bsittler at gmail.com
Sun Jun 17 19:08:03 PDT 2007

i agree, but you should be aware that microformats are only specified
to work in xhtml pages (so e.g. it needs parse as xml), not in html
pages (could be sgml-compliant, but more typically isn't
anything-compliant). that said, several microformat-aware tools do
support real-world html in addition to xhtml.

On 6/15/07, Chris Messina <chris.messina at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 6/15/07, Dougal Campbell <dougal at gunters.org> wrote:
> > Okay, so I started a new job recently.
> >
> > The web site and service has a lot to do with SEO. But despite that, the
> > HTML is a mess of table-based layout and tag soup. I'm hoping I can
> > change that in time, but it won't happen quickly. But one of the main
> > reasons that I think it's possible to change it is because I think that
> > the interest in microformats, and the related boost in search indexing
> > from Technorati and friends, will appeal to my boss. And from there, I
> > have a stepping stone to the benefits of POSH in a more general sense.
> >
> > So I guess my question is, if I manage to shove some microformats
> > (rel-tag, hCard and hReview come to mind) into the middle of our
> > ugly-as-sin markup, are we going to get raked across the coals? :)
> If you apply microformats to accurately identify the objects in your
> pages, no, no one will "rake you over the coals", even if the rest of
> your markup is terrible.
> The goal of microformats should be "progressive semantics" (like
> progressive enhancement) where every little bit helps.
> The beauty of microformats is that they can be worked into even the
> most god-awful markup and still offer the same benefits as if they
> were applied to more semantic markup.
> In any case, you should go for it and then ping us with the results.
> Chris
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