[uf-discuss] Re: calendar (and other) items aren't always tidy

[ken]

Paul,

I'm sorry to have put so much work on you and appreciate your efforts.
I'm still not convinced, though, that microformats will provide a
structure which will be beneficial in the long term.  Yes, they'd be
okay for coding many vcards, but not for the bigger picture.

Thanks again for your efforts.


Best,
ken

On 11/30/2007 05:55 AM Paul Wilkins wrote:
> On Nov 28, 2007 6:09 AM, ken <gebser at speakeasy.net> wrote:
>> "Taking things further" was the point of my question.  In particular,
>> mentioned in the three-sentence example are several organizations-- a
>> couple high schools, a couple football teams, and a family-- and each of
>> the three people mentioned are members of (have a role in) three (but
>> not all) of these organizations.
> 
> This is trivial though because the include pattern takes care of most of this.
> It takes but a few moments to include other data from the information
> that's given.
> 
> The include pattern is where you put an id attribute on some piece of
> information, so that you can include it elsewhere with
>    <a href="id-name" class="include"></a>
> 
> This was demonstrated at several places in the sample code, and the
> reason for the "left as an exercise" comment.
> 
> I shall briefly add the highschool, their football team isn't
> mentioned, only their opponents. I have been naughty and called their
> football team "The Eagles", even though it's not stated explicitly in
> the text.
> 
> The family relations come under the topic of genealogy, for which a
> microformat is currently being developed
> http://microformats.org/wiki/genealogy
> 
> The game that's happening "this sunday" doesn't have a date, but I'll
> assume that it's the 2nd of December as the information was written
> just a few days ago.
> 
> So the information that I've marked up from this for all three people is
> 
> - First Name
> - Last Name
> - Organization Name
> - Organization Unit
> - Role
> 
> Event
> - Start Date
> - Summary
> - Location
> 
> Normally the code wouldn't be so many lines, it'd just be inline with
> the text and less wieldy, but in the intertested of readability in
> this email medium it's been given a more vertical layout.
> 
> <span class="vcard" id="bobby-smith"><span class="fn n">
>  <span class="given-name">Bobby</span>
>    <a href="#smith" class="include"></a>
>  </span>
>  <span class="org">
>    <a href="#pittsfield-high" class="include"></a>
>    <a href="#eagles-team" class="include"></a>
>  </span>
>  <a href="#star-quarter" class="include"></a>
> </span>
> and
> <span class="vcard" id="billy-smith"><span class="fn n">
>    <span class="given-name">Billy</span>
>    <a href="#smith" class="include"></a>
>  </span>
>  <span class="org">
>    <a href="#pittsfield-high" class="include"></a>
>    <a href="#eagles-team" class="include"></a>
>  </span>
>  <a href="#star-fullback" class="include"></a>
> </span>
> are on
> <abbr class="organization-unit" id="eagles-team" title="The
> Eagles">the same football team</abbr>
> and
> <span class="vevent">
>  <abbr class="dtstart" title="2007-12-02">on Sunday</abbr>
>  they're
>  <span class="summary">playing against the
>    <span class="organization-unit" id="falcons-team">Falcons</span>
>  </span>,
>  <a href="#pittsfield-high" class="include"></a>
> </span>
> whose <span class="role" id="falcons-coach">coach</span> is
> <span class="vcard" id="ron-smith">
>  <span class="fn n">
>    <span class="given-name">Ron</span>
>        <span class="family-name" id="smith">Smith</span>
>  </span>
>  <span class="org">
>    <a href="#falcons-team" class="include"></a>
>  </span>
>  <a href="#falcons-coach" class="include"></a>
> </span>.
> Ron Smith is Bobby and Billy's father.
> The brothers are also
> the <span class="role" id="star-quarter">star quarterback</span>
> and <span class="role" id="star-fullback">star fullback</span>
> at <span class="organization-name location"
> id="pittsfield-high">Pittsfield High</span>.
> 
> --
> Paul Wilkins
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