[uf-discuss] haudio contributor
andy at pigsonthewing.org.uk
Thu Feb 7 07:30:11 PST 2008
On Thu, February 7, 2008 14:33, Michael Smethurst wrote:
>>> At the time Scott Reynen suggested:
>>> If it's just a generic contact that you know nothing about, I'd say
>>> just use fn, as adding org is potentially incorrect information. But
>>> if you know it's a music act, I think it makes sense to consider even
>>> an individual performer's name to be an organization name in that
>>> context. I'd say there's
>>> a difference, for example, between Norah Jones the person, who would
>>> be <span class="fn">Norah Jones</span>, and Norah Jones the musical
>>> act, which would be <span class="fn org">Norah Jones</span>. </snip>
>> That strikes me as no more sensible now than it did then. If I cite
>> her, as "Norah Jones said", am I referring to her as a person, or an
>> Would her hCard's date of both refer to the day she left her mother's
>> womb, or the day the supposed "organisation" was founded?
>> Does Mozart become an organisation if I refer to his symphonies, but
>> not if I refer to his marriage?
>> Do Winston Churchill or Ghandi suddenly become organisations if we
>> refer to a recording of one of their speeches, but not one of their
> I didn't say I supported this view. I just brought it back up cos it
> seemed relevant
Noted; my response was not addressed to or directed at you personally.
>>> ...with artists like Eminem, Madonna, Prince.
>>> How is fn optimisation supposed to work here?
>> Exactly as it does at present. Those are both formatted names and
>> nicknames (and remain nicknames, if you also include the fn of "Marshall
>> Bruce Mathers III", "Madonna Louise Ciccone Ritchie " or "Prince
> Not sure I follow. The hcard wiki page says nickname optimisation
> happens when " "FN" and "ORG" are not the same, and the value of the "FN"
> property is exactly one word. What would: <span class="fn">Madonna Louise
> Ciccone Ritchie</span>
> Result in?
No nickname; unlike the more comprehensive:
<span class="fn"><span class="nickname">Madonna</span> Louise Ciccone
> Also what about artists like Plastic Bertram? I assume that's not a given
> family name combination
It would be,; however I suggest that marked up such as:
<span class="fn nickname">Plastic Bertram</span>
should be exempted from that optimisation rule - good call. I'll wiki it.
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