[uf-new] hAudio ISSUE #8: hAlbum is redundant

[Manu Sporny]

Martin McEvoy wrote:
> ...listening to
>  <div class="haudio">
>   <div class="item">
>         <span class="media-title">May the Rain</span>
>   </div>
>  found on <span class="haudio-title">Paper Tigers</span>
> </div>
> by...
> 
> *Item* works here as a root class on its own and is used as a semantic
> finger pointing out the interesting or important parts...

Sorry Martin, I missed this e-mail for some reason until just now. I
agree with you in concept, we need /something/ to point out that one
haudio is a part of another haudio (containers and items in those
containers).

We are, however, barred from using 'item' because it was previously
defined as this in hReview and we can't change it's definition:

item info. required. fn (url || photo ) | hCard (for person or business)
           | hCalendar (for event)

That means that we cannot put an hAudio in ITEM. Got any other
suggestions? The best we've been able to come up with thus far has been
TRACK or SECTION.

> I am also suggesting parts that can be reused in other media related
> uF's, item and media-title.

Again, I agree with you in principle... it's just a matter of word
choice. We can re-use TRACK in CDs, albums, and possibly DVDs. However,
we can't do that in movies, podcasts, or other container formats. That
is why I suggested that we use SECTION instead of TRACK. We can use
SECTION in CDs, albums, movies, television episodes, podcasts and other
container formats.

> hItem technically I would say already exists as a uF on its own wouldn't
> you?

Nope, I wouldn't go that far. ITEM does exist, but it already has
pre-defined semantics that, while we would like to change, attempting to
do so in the past has been disastrous[1].

>> What about using SECTION instead of TRACK? It could be used in hVideo
>> and hAudio. SECTION makes sense for albums, podcasts, clips, television,
>> movies... but doesn't really work for charts or playlists.
> 
> ...how do you summarise section? 

You could use the proposed DESCRIPTION element, if it is approved and if
there is enough evidence for it.

http://microformats.org/wiki/audio-info-proposal#Description

-- manu

[1]http://microformats.org/discuss/mail/microformats-new/2007-June/000511.html