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<h1>Exploratory Discussions</h1>
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Per the microformats [[process]]: research and analysis of real-world [[examples]], existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat. Please check [[rejected-formats]] before making additions.
Per the microformats [[process]]: research and analysis of real-world [[examples]], existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat. Please check [[rejected-formats]] before making additions.


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==active==
==active==
'''New: [[microformats 2]]''' has sufficiently stabilized to start using on public web pages and developing parsers and applications. Current exploratory microformats should switch to the microformats-2 syntax for further development.
The following exploratory discussions are being actively pursued, generally, edited in the last month, and/or being utilized/experimented with by multiple sites in the wild.
The following exploratory discussions are being actively pursued, generally, edited in the last month, and/or being utilized/experimented with by multiple sites in the wild.


* [[activity-streams]]
* [[app]]
* [[citation]]: [[citation-examples|citation examples]], [[citation-formats|citation formats]], [[citation-brainstorming|citation brainstorming]], [[citation-strawman-01|h3988 proposal]] and [[citation-faq|citation FAQ]]
* [[citation]]: [[citation-examples|citation examples]], [[citation-formats|citation formats]], [[citation-brainstorming|citation brainstorming]], [[citation-strawman-01|h3988 proposal]] and [[citation-faq|citation FAQ]]
* [[comment]] ([[comment-problem|comment problem]], [[comment-examples|comment examples]], [[comments-formats|comment formats]], and [[comment-brainstorming|comment brainstorming]]{{NewMarker}}  (Some stuff needs to be extracted from [[comments-formats]], [[hcomment]] and [[mfcomment]]))
* figures [[figure]], [[figure-examples|figure examples]], [[figure-formats]], [[figure-brainstorming|figure brainstorming]]
* [[group]]: [[group-examples|group examples]], [[group-formats]], [[group-brainstorming|group brainstorming]]  
* [[group]]: [[group-examples|group examples]], [[group-formats]], [[group-brainstorming|group brainstorming]]  
* listing / hListing [[hlisting-proposal|hListing proposal]], and [[hlisting-feedback|hListing feedback]]  
* listing / hListing [[hlisting-proposal|hListing proposal]], and [[hlisting-feedback|hListing feedback]]  
** based on listing [[listing-examples|examples]], [[listing-formats|formats]], and [[listing-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
** based on listing [[listing-examples|examples]], [[listing-formats|formats]], and [[listing-brainstorming|brainstorming]]
* measures and measurement units [[measure]], [[measure-examples]], [[measure-formats]]
* [[mfo]]: [[mfo-examples]]
* [[mfo]]: [[mfo-examples]]
* [[page]] - what does a page represent?
* [[product]] -  [[product-examples]], [[product-formats]], [[product-brainstorming]].
* [[project|project]]{{NewMarker}}, [[project-examples|project examples]]{{NewMarker}}, [[project-formats|project formats]]{{NewMarker}}, [[project-brainstorming|project brainstorming]]{{NewMarker}}
* [[recipe]] [[recipe-examples|recipe examples]], [[recipe-formats]], [[recipe-brainstorming]]
* [[recipe]] [[recipe-examples|recipe examples]], [[recipe-formats]], [[recipe-brainstorming]]
* [[rel-shortlink]] {{NewMarker}}
* [[representative-hcard]] - see also [[uid]]
* [[representative-hcard]] - see also [[uid]]


=== media related ===
=== media related ===
Media related efforts are very active in the microformats community and thus have been grouped here for convenience
Media related efforts are very active in the microformats community and thus have been grouped here for convenience
* [[audio-info]] ([[audio-info-examples|examples]], [[audio-info-formats|formats]], [[audio-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[audio-info-proposal|proposal]], [[audio-info-issues|issues]], [[haudio|specification]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio (speech, music, and sound in general).
* [[audio-info]] ([[audio-info-examples|examples]], [[audio-info-formats|formats]], [[audio-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[audio-info-proposal|proposal]], [[audio-info-issues|issues]], [[haudio|specification]]{{NewMarker}}) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio (speech, music, and sound in general).
** music [[music-examples|music examples]]
** music [[music-examples|music examples]]
* audio-album (see [[audio-info]] pages for examples, formats, brainstorming. [[audio-album-proposal]], [[audio-album-issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio albums/collections.
* audio-album (see [[audio-info]] pages for examples, formats, brainstorming. [[audio-album-proposal]], [[audio-album-issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to audio albums/collections.
* broadcast: Internet Radio & TV: [[broadcast-examples]], [[broadcast-brainstorming]]
* broadcast: Internet Radio & TV: [[broadcast-examples]], [[broadcast-brainstorming]]
* [[media-info]] ([[media-info-examples|media-info examples]], [[media-info-formats|media-info formats]], [[media-info-brainstorming|media-info brainstorming]])
* [[media-info]] ([[media-info-examples|media-info examples]], [[media-info-formats|media-info formats]], [[media-info-brainstorming|media-info brainstorming]], [[media-info-proposal| media-info Proposal]])
* photo note [[photo-note-examples|photo note examples]]
* photo note [[photo-note-examples|photo note examples]]
* show [[show-examples]], [[show-formats]], [[show-brainstorming|show brainstorming]]
* showroll [[showroll-examples]], [[showroll-formats]], [[showroll-brainstorming]]
* video-info ([[video-info-examples|examples]], [[video-info-formats|formats]], [[video-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[video-info-proposal|proposal]], [[video-info-issues|issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to video (video clips, movies, television, and video multimedia presentation in general).
* video-info ([[video-info-examples|examples]], [[video-info-formats|formats]], [[video-info-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[video-info-proposal|proposal]], [[video-info-issues|issues]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to video (video clips, movies, television, and video multimedia presentation in general).


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The following explorations are fairly inactive, though they may just be waiting for folks with sufficient interest and use cases to help further their development. Some of them could probably be consolidated, or even rejected with suggestions of re-using existing microformats.
The following explorations are fairly inactive, though they may just be waiting for folks with sufficient interest and use cases to help further their development. Some of them could probably be consolidated, or even rejected with suggestions of re-using existing microformats.


* alternates [[alternates-brainstorming|alternates brainstorming]], [[alternates-examples|alternates examples]]
* [[alternates]] ([[alternates-examples|alternates examples]], [[alternates-formats]], [[alternates-brainstorming|alternates brainstorming]])
*[[attention]]
*[[attention]]
* book [[book-examples|book examples]], [[book-formats|book formats]], and [[book-brainstorming|book brainstorming]]
* book [[book-examples|book examples]], [[book-formats|book formats]], and [[book-brainstorming|book brainstorming]]
* chat [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]]
* chat [[chat-examples|chat examples]], [[chat-formats|chat formats]], and [[chat-brainstorming|chat brainstorming]]
* code [[code-examples|code examples]], [[code-formats]], [[code-brainstorming|code brainstorming]]
* code [[code-examples|code examples]], [[code-formats]], [[code-brainstorming|code brainstorming]]
* comment [[comment-problem|comment problem]], [[comment-examples|comment examples]], and [[comments-formats|comment formats]] (Some stuff needs to be extracted from [[comments-formats]], [[hcomment]] and [[mfcomment]])
* [[collection-description|collection description]] - for describing collections in libraries  
* [[collection-description|collection description]] - for describing collections in libraries  
* [[definition-examples]]
* [[definition-examples]]
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* [[downloads]] [[downloads-examples|downloads examples]], [[downloads-formats|downloads formats]], [[downloads-brainstorming|downloads brainstorming]]  
* [[downloads]] [[downloads-examples|downloads examples]], [[downloads-formats|downloads formats]], [[downloads-brainstorming|downloads brainstorming]]  
* [[error-message]] [[error-message-examples|error message examples]], [[error-message-formats]], [[error-message-brainstorming|error message brainstorming]]
* [[error-message]] [[error-message-examples|error message examples]], [[error-message-formats]], [[error-message-brainstorming|error message brainstorming]]
* figures [[figure]], [[figure-examples|figure examples]], [[figure-formats]], [[figure-brainstorming|figure brainstorming]]
* file-format ([[file-format-examples|examples]], formats, brainstorming) - for the mark-up of file format information (size, type, codecs, bitrate, etc.)  - should this be merged with [[downloads]] ?
* file-format ([[file-format-examples|examples]], formats, brainstorming) - for the mark-up of file format information (size, type, codecs, bitrate, etc.)  - should this be merged with [[downloads]] ?
* forms [[forms-examples|forms examples]]
* forms [[forms-examples|forms examples]]
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* [[journal-brainstorming]]
* [[journal-brainstorming]]
* last modified [[last-modified-examples|last modified examples]], [[last-modified-formats|last modified formats]], and [[last-modified-brainstorming|last modified brainstorming]]
* last modified [[last-modified-examples|last modified examples]], [[last-modified-formats|last modified formats]], and [[last-modified-brainstorming|last modified brainstorming]]
* measures and measurement units [[measure]], [[measure-examples]], [[measure-formats]]
* metalink [[metalink-examples|metalink examples]]  
* metalink [[metalink-examples|metalink examples]]  
* news [[news-examples|news examples]]
* [[opening-hours]]: [[opening-hours-examples]] of stores, restaurants, etc.
* [[operating-hours]]: [[operating-hours-examples]] ..of stores, restaurants, etc.
* [[page-summary]] [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-formats]]
* [[page-summary]] [[page-summary-examples]], [[page-summary-formats]]
* [[payment]]
* [[payment]]
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* [[rest-examples|REST examples]] (see also [[rest]])
* [[rest-examples|REST examples]] (see also [[rest]])
* search results [[search-results-example|search results example]]
* search results [[search-results-example|search results example]]
* [[species]] - for the marking up of the scientific names of living things: [[species-examples]], [[species-formats]], [[species-brainstorming]]
* table [[table-examples|examples]]
* table [[table-examples|examples]]
* transit table [[transit-table-examples|transit table examples]]
* transit table [[transit-table-examples|transit table examples]]
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* work of art [[work-of-art|work of art overview]], [[workofart-examples|work of art examples]], [[workofart-formats|work of art formats]], and [[workofart-brainstorming|work of art brainstorming]]
* work of art [[work-of-art|work of art overview]], [[workofart-examples|work of art examples]], [[workofart-formats|work of art formats]], and [[workofart-brainstorming|work of art brainstorming]]
* [[xpn-examples]] - proposal to extend (or replicate) XFN for business (or professional - hence X'''P'''N) relationships  
* [[xpn-examples]] - proposal to extend (or replicate) XFN for business (or professional - hence X'''P'''N) relationships  
* [[wa-page-view-examples]] - proposal for declaring web analytics page view variables in HTML


=== blogging related ===
=== blogging related ===
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=== education related ===
=== education related ===
* [[course-catalog]]; [[course-catalog-examples]]
* higher education academic information
* higher education academic information
** [[hied-course-examples]], [[hied-course-formats]], [[hied-course-brainstorming]] - an academic course activity
** [[hied-course-examples]], [[hied-course-formats]], [[hied-course-brainstorming]] - an academic course activity
** [[course-catalog]]; [[course-catalog-examples]]
* learning ([[learning-examples|examples]], [[learning-formats|formats]], [[learning-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[learning-people|people]], [[learning-proposal|proposal]], [[learning-issues|issues]]) - a microformat for microlearning
* learning ([[learning-examples|examples]], [[learning-formats|formats]], [[learning-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[learning-people|people]], [[learning-proposal|proposal]], [[learning-issues|issues]]) - a microformat for microlearning
* syllabus [[syllabus-examples]], [[syllabus-formats]], [[syllabus-brainstorming]]
* howto {{NewMarker}} [[how-to-examples]], [[how-to-formats]], [[how-to-brainstorming]] - microformat for authors and publishers to markup solutions to common problems


=== productivity related ===
=== productivity related ===
* task [[htask|task effort]], [[task-examples| task examples]], [[task-formats|task formats]], [[task-brainstorming|task brainstorming]], and [[task-faq|task FAQ]]
* [[task]] effort, [[task-examples|task examples]], [[task-formats|task formats]], [[task-brainstorming|task brainstorming]], and [[task-faq|task FAQ]]
* [[to-do-examples]]
* [[to-do-examples]]
* meeting minutes [[meeting-minutes-examples|meeting minutes examples]], [[meeting-minutes-formats|meeting minutes formats]], and [[meeting-minutes-brainstorming|meeting minutes brainstorming]]
* meeting minutes [[meeting-minutes-examples|meeting minutes examples]], [[meeting-minutes-formats|meeting minutes formats]], and [[meeting-minutes-brainstorming|meeting minutes brainstorming]]
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* bank account [[bankaccount-brainstorming]], [[bankaccount-examples]]
* bank account [[bankaccount-brainstorming]], [[bankaccount-examples]]
* [[currency]]; [[currency-examples]]; [[currency-formats]]; [[currency-brainstorming]]; [[currency-proposal]]; [[currency-issues]]
* [[currency]]; [[currency-examples]]; [[currency-formats]]; [[currency-brainstorming]]; [[currency-proposal]]; [[currency-issues]]
* job listing [[job-listing-examples|job listing examples]], [[job-listing-formats]], [[job-listing-brainstorming|job listing brainstorming]]
* [[job-listing|job listing]]: [[job-listing-examples|job listing examples]], [[job-listing-formats]], [[job-listing-brainstorming|job listing brainstorming]]
* [[product]] -  [[product-examples]], [[product-formats]], [[product-brainstorming]].
* [[realestate-propertydetail]], [[realestate-propertydetail-examples]], [[realestate-propertydetail-formats]], [[realestate-propertydetail brainstorming]]
* receipt ([[receipt-examples|examples]], [[receipt-formats|formats]], [[receipt-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[receipt-proposal|proposal]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to purchase receipts.
* receipt ([[receipt-examples|examples]], [[receipt-formats|formats]], [[receipt-brainstorming|brainstorming]], [[receipt-proposal|proposal]]) - Marking up information and metadata related to purchase receipts.
* [[wishlist]], [[wishlist-examples]]
* [[wishlist]], [[wishlist-examples]]
 
* [[hService_Proposal|proposal for selling commercial services]]


== completed ==
== completed ==
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* [[off|OFF]]
* [[off|OFF]]
* [[hJoke]] a microformat used to delineate jokes/humor
* [[hJoke]] a microformat used to delineate jokes/humor
* [[species]] - for the marking up of the scientific names of living things: [[species-examples]], [[species-formats]], [[species-brainstorming]] ([[User:AndyMabbett|Andy Mabbett]])
* [[itinerary]] ([[User:Lfbn|Luís Nóbrega]]), [[itinerary-examples]].
 
== failed to follow process ==
All too often it seems people propose a new microformat without following the [[process]] (most often not even reading apparently), nor creating the proper research pages first (and doing the research), nor sometimes even reading the [[introduction]] and [[how-to-play]] pages.  Such proposals are relegated to this section to make it clear that they are worse than mere solo pursuits, they are (most of the time) solo pursuits by people who haven't even read the [[process]] page!
 
In short, if you, the proposer, don't even bother to spend the time reading and attempting to use existing microformats (as the [[Main_Page]], [[introduction]], AND [[process]] page ask you to do so), how can you expect anyone else to bother to read and consider your proposal?
 
* [[directory-proposal]]
* [[realestate-propertydetail]], [[realestate-propertydetail-examples]], [[realestate-propertydetail-formats]], [[realestate-propertydetail brainstorming]]
* show [[show-examples]], [[show-formats]], [[show-brainstorming|show brainstorming]]
* showroll [[showroll-examples]], [[showroll-formats]], [[showroll-brainstorming]]
* syllabus [[syllabus-examples]], [[syllabus-formats]], [[syllabus-brainstorming]]
* [[web-page]]
 
=== did not read main page ===
Even worse, proposals by people who apparently didn't even bother to read the rest of the [[Main_Page]]!
These are proposals that failed to follow the process and were added by the author to the  [[Main_Page]] where it explicitly says to follow the process (often right next to where they added the link to their brainstorm proposal).
 
* [[hwiki|hWiki]]
* [[rel-ecolabel]]

Latest revision as of 17:41, 29 November 2022


Per the microformats process: research and analysis of real-world examples, existing formats, and brainstorming to motivate the microformat. Please check rejected-formats before making additions.

Sort each section alphabetically. Group similar efforts.

active

New: microformats 2 has sufficiently stabilized to start using on public web pages and developing parsers and applications. Current exploratory microformats should switch to the microformats-2 syntax for further development.

The following exploratory discussions are being actively pursued, generally, edited in the last month, and/or being utilized/experimented with by multiple sites in the wild.

media related

Media related efforts are very active in the microformats community and thus have been grouped here for convenience

other

The following explorations are fairly inactive, though they may just be waiting for folks with sufficient interest and use cases to help further their development. Some of them could probably be consolidated, or even rejected with suggestions of re-using existing microformats.

blogging related

education related

productivity related

commerce products listings related

completed

The following exploratory discussions resulted in a microformat.


solo pursuits

The following are primarily pursued by a single individual and thus have not generated widespread interest in the community yet. In general, solo pursuits are discouraged.

The goal of a format is to help human communication, the exchange of information between two people. Thus if only one community member is really interested in pursuing it (enough to work on it in the community), it's not important as a format. While a list of contributors or supporters helps demonstrate some broader interest, it is still insufficient if a format is only really being worked on in the community by a single individual.

failed to follow process

All too often it seems people propose a new microformat without following the process (most often not even reading apparently), nor creating the proper research pages first (and doing the research), nor sometimes even reading the introduction and how-to-play pages. Such proposals are relegated to this section to make it clear that they are worse than mere solo pursuits, they are (most of the time) solo pursuits by people who haven't even read the process page!

In short, if you, the proposer, don't even bother to spend the time reading and attempting to use existing microformats (as the Main_Page, introduction, AND process page ask you to do so), how can you expect anyone else to bother to read and consider your proposal?

did not read main page

Even worse, proposals by people who apparently didn't even bother to read the rest of the Main_Page! These are proposals that failed to follow the process and were added by the author to the Main_Page where it explicitly says to follow the process (often right next to where they added the link to their brainstorm proposal).